On June 2-3, 2020, the Advanced Manufacturing Office (AMO), part of the Department of Energy’s Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy, changed its meeting format and conducted a virtual Peer Review of its program. The AMO Peer Review provided a high-level overview of AMO’s strategic plan, priorities, investments, and the mechanisms it is using to meet its program goals. This two-day meeting included presentations from AMO technology managers on various technical topics that cover the entire AMO program.
Principal Investigator presentations were not reviewed during the AMO Peer Review.
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PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR PRESENTATIONS
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Bob Gemmer: I'm sorry about that.
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Bob Gemmer: I didn't realize I had control of the screen.
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Bob Gemmer: We have about seven minutes to go.
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Bob Gemmer: Good afternoon, everybody.
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Bob Gemmer: My name is Bob gamma
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Bob Gemmer: And I am along with Melissa kumbaro
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Bob Gemmer: The co host of this virtual ammo program review meeting. I want to welcome everybody glad that you're here.
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Bob Gemmer: Up, I should point out that this is a totally new experience for us. We hope that you find it interesting and informative.
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Bob Gemmer: And we also hope that next year we'll be able to see you in person.
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Bob Gemmer: A
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Bob Gemmer: Couple of brief comments regarding the review itself.
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Bob Gemmer: For those of you who have attended reviews. In the past, the Department of Energy's advanced manufacturing program. We have typically had full reviews of the entire research portfolio. However, because of the constraints of the current situation.
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Bob Gemmer: This year we're going to be focusing on the program itself. However, having said that all of the presentations that normally would be given at our peer review are available online and you'll be able to look at them at your leisure.
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Bob Gemmer: Either later in the in the week or further in the year as you wish.
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Bob Gemmer: And so the first day is going to be focused on overall management issues will have a brief introduction, that's me.
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Bob Gemmer: Followed by Valerie Leitner who will introduce our guest speaker assistant secretary Daniel Simmons. This will be followed by presentations by
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Bob Gemmer: Animal leadership and at the end of this day will have Q AMP. A from the reviewers.
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Bob Gemmer: Now those of you who have participated in emos reviews in the past, know that this meeting is really for the reviewers because of this other reviewers are going to be asking questions. They're going to be interacting with the speakers both today and tomorrow, however.
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Bob Gemmer: If you do have a question. You're welcome to submit a chat message. And if there's time available, we'll try to address those questions.
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Bob Gemmer: Like to briefly introduce our reviewers Nancy Margolis was that share this year and was that your last year.
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Bob Gemmer: The other six because fence in the review panel are all well known disciplines enamels emos review program for of whom have been reviewers for the program itself in the past.
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Bob Gemmer: Two new ones. Paul Brian and rugby or uka also are at work with. Do we and ammo in the past their bios are available on the peer review website.
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Bob Gemmer: And of course, they're always available to ask questions to. However, if you want to ask questions of anybody, you're going to have to use the chat.
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Bob Gemmer: That's a pretty brief introduction, actually. So I'm going to move it on right now and introduced
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Bob Gemmer: My slides move
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Bob Gemmer: Up there it is just, again, reminding you that you are automatically muted. If you have questions and comments you can send them to Keith Jamison
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Bob Gemmer: If there's time after the peer reviewer questions are completed.
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Bob Gemmer: We'll try to address the questions from the audience. If anybody has zoom related questions. You can chat. Again, Sabrina.
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Bob Gemmer: She is available for those kinds of issues.
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Bob Gemmer: So now I'm going to go ahead and introduce our re Leitner the deputy director and acting director of the ads advanced manufacturing program Valerie. It's all yours.
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Valri Lightner: Thanks Bob and I just want to echo, you're welcome to our first virtual peer review. So we appreciate all of you.
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Valri Lightner: calling in and participating and listening to some of the updates we have on the program. And I also want to echo. A special thanks to the peer review panel because they've already spent time
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Valri Lightner: Talking to us planning for this meeting reviewing materials coming up with questions in advance and we really do appreciate the time and the effort that you put in to provide thoughtful feedback to help us improve the impact of our program.
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Valri Lightner: And I am privileged this morning to have the opportunity to introduce our assistant secretary Daniel Simmons. He's the Assistant Secretary for energy efficiency and renewable energy.
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Valri Lightner: And Daniel has been very supportive of the advanced manufacturing office and advanced manufacturing technologies in general.
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Valri Lightner: And specifically, he's been engaged internationally and activities with us related to materials that are critical to
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Valri Lightner: Energy applications and addressing supply chain vulnerabilities to those materials and also he's coordinated across federal agencies in water, security and I'll turn it over to you, Daniel to share more about those efforts and things that we've been working on together.
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Daniel Simmons: All right. Thank you very much about Valerie.
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Daniel Simmons: Hopefully I've been I have unmuted myself. It is
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Daniel Simmons: You know, these are interesting events to do since it's just me sitting here in my office, looking at a computer screen, instead of being able to look out and and to see you.
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Daniel Simmons: But in one way, it's nice and that is that I can see some of the peer reviewers over here. I saw Mark Johnson, who I haven't seen for a while, a little bit closer than, than if it was just like before everybody in a in a big room. So there is
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Daniel Simmons: There's definitely some value. First of all, I just want to say thank you.
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Daniel Simmons: Thank you for the work that you do with a mo obviously a mo hat is given substantial amount of money from Congress from the American people.
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Daniel Simmons: It is critical that we spend that money as wisely as possible. And the only way that we can really do that is to make sure that we're reaching out that we are
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Daniel Simmons: Hearing from stakeholders that we're hearing from the public that we're hearing from experts like you. So thank you very much for all of the work that you do to work with a mo to advance our mission. This is
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Daniel Simmons: This is this is critical manufacturing is is obviously a priority for the administration it. I think it should be a priority for everyone to make sure that we are advancing manufacturing in this in this in this country, it is a it is a key area of
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Daniel Simmons: Emphasis and for future economic growth and energy and making, making sure that is more energy efficient to reduce, you know, a key driver of cost for manufacturing is
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Daniel Simmons: Is very important. So thank you very much for all the work that you do, if you remember nothing else from what I have to say today. Remember, remember that one thing
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Daniel Simmons: That you know we have obviously we're, we're in a period of some challenges those challenges are definitely going to affect the manufacturing sector with with
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Daniel Simmons: Which I think only highlights the, the need to continue to advance technology technological advancement will will help, no matter what other crazy things happen.
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Daniel Simmons: Happen in the world. So some of the things that a mo has has done recently just last month we announced a $67 billion multi topic. Funding Opportunity announced, but
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Daniel Simmons: To improve energy productivity and manufacturing and to enable the manufacturing of cutting edge products in the United States, we also just recently announced
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Daniel Simmons: Well, one of the things as we think about as we think about manufacturing and the future that cyber security is going to be
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Daniel Simmons: Is going to be key, it will I will always be critical, but anytime that we are introducing new
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Daniel Simmons: You know, new technologies that is a new attack surface for for cyber attacks, which is obviously a concern. And because of that we have. We recently announced that we selected the University of San Antonio.
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Daniel Simmons: The University of Texas at San Antonio to lead the cyber security manufacturing Innovation Institute.
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Daniel Simmons: Which is dedicated to advancing cybersecurity and energy efficient manufacturing
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Daniel Simmons: The Institute will pursue targeted research and and development that addresses evolving cyber security threats to obviously because it's our job, increase the energy efficiency of manufacturing, but it's not just
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Daniel Simmons: The advanced manufacturing office working on that. But also, in this case, making sure that there is oversight from us, as well as from our cyber security office.
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Daniel Simmons: So,
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Daniel Simmons: Other important priorities include supporting domestic manufacturing through reducing dependence on foreign source.
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Daniel Simmons: Critical materials such as those found in batteries and energy storage products advancing plastics innovation and increasing a water access and security tomorrow.
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Daniel Simmons: Alex Fitzsimmons the Deputy Assistant Secretary for energy efficiency will talk about what a mo is doing in terms of plastics innovation and around energy storage, because he has been very
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Daniel Simmons: Very focused on on on those two issues. I'm going to touch on some of the some of the issues that Valerie mentioned it around critical materials and water security critical materials are I almost say critical materials are critical. They are. That's a tautology.
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Daniel Simmons: Critical materials are very important for next generation energy technologies not. I mean, obviously they're important for today's technologies. But as we think about the future, we believe that these materials will only become of
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Daniel Simmons: increasing importance for things such as high performance batteries. That means high performance electric motors. It means, as well as for next
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Daniel Simmons: Well hopefully next generation batteries. There is a lot of work to be done because many of these materials. The US is completely import dependent on many of them.
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Daniel Simmons: And not just the United States, many countries around the world. And so working together to make sure that that we don't have a sole source of many of these materials, but there is a
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Daniel Simmons: There are robust supply chains. That's one of the things that I hope that we learned from the Copa 19 experiences. Some of the value of robust supply chains, particularly around critical minerals
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Daniel Simmons: Obviously, one of the things that we need to do is have innovation around critical minerals, given that
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Daniel Simmons: The lot of the separations and processing, for example, are very energy intensive and they can be
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Daniel Simmons: Environmentally challenging. And so making sure that we improve the energy efficiency, making sure that we improve the the environmental performance is is important as we look to improve
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Daniel Simmons: This and to have more more robust supply for things such as lithium for batteries and cobalt and also for batteries, but also high performance magnets.
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Daniel Simmons: All of these all of these things really work on increasing the robustness of those supply chains. A couple years ago, the President came out with executive order.
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Daniel Simmons: Which I don't remember the number, nor is it in my notes. However, the name is and the executive order on critical minerals car called a federal strategy to ensure secure and reliable supply of critical minerals
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Daniel Simmons: A mo has been one of the leaders in the federal government on starting to well to work on that and implement that executive order.
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Daniel Simmons: A mo funds applied research and demonstration scale technology to advanced transformative research, development and deployment across critical mineral supply chain. And to do that we just announced a $30 million funding opportunity announcement.
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Daniel Simmons: Last month I guess it is. It is now June last month, and this is the first time that D has issued a funding opportunity announcement focused on field validation of separation and processing.
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Daniel Simmons: Again, our goal overall is to have much more robust supply chains around critical around critical materials. This is part of an interagency process.
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Daniel Simmons: Throughout the entire federal government to reduce the nation's vulnerability to supply chain disruption.
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Daniel Simmons: And to support. Overall, the administration's the administration's goals, it will leverage and expand funding from the critical materials Institute to encourage further collaboration by industry in diverse in diversifying the supply chains, the critical materials Institute is a
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Daniel Simmons: Is a very important part of this effort. Overall, it is an energy of innovation hub funded by a mo, and it is currently in the second year in the second five year phase of funding from dealey the Institute's members have been
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Daniel Simmons: Have made a lot of progress so far.
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Daniel Simmons: At
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Daniel Simmons: Diversifying supplied developing substitutes and as well as looking at reuse and recycling of critical materials. It's focuses larger than a rare earths.
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Daniel Simmons: But it's also rarest for things such as magnets, both for magnets and for lighting, as well as lithium for for batteries and new efforts around cobalt graphite.
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Daniel Simmons: indium and gallium are also are also underway. The Institute has been very successful and Bill in developing technologies to address some of these supply chain challenges from
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Daniel Simmons: From separation technologies to new magnet materials that enable recycling. So, this is this is a critical materials Institute is a very important part of our efforts overall around critical materials.
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Daniel Simmons: Another important part of our work is around water and one of the, one of the questions that people might ask is, well, one
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Daniel Simmons: Why are you spending so much time on these minerals and materials as well. Well, Congress has told us to, I mean that is we, the Department of Energy.
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Daniel Simmons: That is our statutory authorization to work on processing and separation of minerals, you know, who knew, but it is it is what we are authorized to do in in terms of water.
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Daniel Simmons: water and energy are inseparable. The, the, the two are are very closely connected. I did not know this, I did not know this stat until
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Daniel Simmons: Staff worked on this on today's talk, and
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Daniel Simmons: stat. Is this the energy sector withdraws the same amount of water as the agricultural sector every day about 133 billion gallons of water like that is an amazing amount of water.
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Daniel Simmons: Obviously a lot of that goes to thermo electric for thermo electric power plants with cooling. But still, that is an amazing amount of water so
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Daniel Simmons: That's why water but that's that's one of the reasons why water really matters. Also, anytime that you're moving water at is incredibly energy intensive
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Daniel Simmons: Last year I had the opportunity to visit a desalination plant in California. And one of the things, one of that one of the things that really stuck out to me in that visit is just like
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Daniel Simmons: This plant is taking electrons and turning it into clean water so much energy is coming in here to to take, you know, ocean water and to turn it into into clean water, so
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Daniel Simmons: It is the the nexus between energy and water is is is very strong, but also, you know, we need to work towards improving water scarcity water variability and uncertainty, these are important issues. They're important for the future.
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Daniel Simmons: And purifying water from any sources is is challenging, but the dirty of the sources, the more energy inputs that are that are required. And that's where we really need to focus, we believe on on innovation in October 2018
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Daniel Simmons: The Department of Energy launched. I hope I didn't, I just hit my keyboard on accident hope I didn't cause everything looks good.
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Daniel Simmons: In 2018 the Department of Energy launched the water security grand challenge that is a White House initiated. Do we lead activity to advance water security in five areas. The first is in desalination.
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Daniel Simmons: As I, as I just mentioned desalination is just so obvious. I mean,
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Daniel Simmons: It is it is the cost of energy that is really the driver, the biggest driver around desalination technologies that's that's the first area.
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Daniel Simmons: The second is to transform the energy sector is produced water from a wasted resource that's produced water from say oil and gas development, though. It's from other things as well.
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Daniel Simmons: The third is to achieve near zero water impact from thermo electric power plants they consume amazing amount of water. That's why you see both large coal fired power plants or large nuclear power plants that are near water sources. It's all about cooling water.
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Daniel Simmons: For double resource recovery from municipal wastewater.
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Daniel Simmons: And the fifth area is to develop small modular energy, water systems for urban, rural tribal and national security and disaster response setting so
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Daniel Simmons: Some of the things that we have done so far is that we have a $1 million dollar Reese a water, wastewater Resource Recovery prize that is to help small and medium sized
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Daniel Simmons: municipal wastewater treatment facilities, be able to recover more water, more, more, more resources, let's say more resources from from from from the input.
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Daniel Simmons: That the deadline for for that was May 28. So we look forward to seeing what what came in.
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Daniel Simmons: There was a $2.3 million solar desalination prize obviously using solar energy for desalination. So we have solar energy. We also have waves to water which is using the mechanical action of waves to drive desalination.
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Daniel Simmons: We're entering the third phase of that phase of that prize and we have a soon to be launched
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Daniel Simmons: Water security Grand Challenge thermo electric cooling prize really again trying to reduce the, the, the need of water for thermo electric power plants.
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Daniel Simmons: Lastly, and obviously, not least, last year we awarded the hundred million dollar subject to congressional appropriations, it's important to put that asterisk in there.
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Daniel Simmons: The hundred million dollar energy, water desalination hub to the National Alliance for water innovation.
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Daniel Simmons: Now we is what what that is called and we believe that will be the premier member organization focused on driving water desalination research and deployment.
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Daniel Simmons: Of secure affordable energy efficient resilient water supply from desalination. So we're, we're very excited about the work that they're that they are doing, they will
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Daniel Simmons: Come out with a roadmap later this year.
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Daniel Simmons: For which will inform request for proposals.
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Daniel Simmons: They will also develop their developing at data hub called water dams, as well as modeling and analysis tool called water taps. So check out that the work that they're doing. If you have any interest in desalination.
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Daniel Simmons: We really hope to be able to drive that that desalination technology forward through through our work world through through nowadays work so very excited about that Congress also recently directed the
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Daniel Simmons: Mo to fund $20 million and water resource treatment initiative so looking forward for continuing opportunities and not just desalination. But for things such as as
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Daniel Simmons: Water and wastewater. So all this Rd will complement the work being done by the desalination hub. So in conclusion, again, thank you very much. Thank you for being here. We really appreciate it. I didn't. I don't know if I
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Daniel Simmons: There's 382 people is what this what it says at the bottom of my screen.
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Daniel Simmons: I think that we are ahead of schedule, which means that we have some time for questions. So if you have some questions, you can. I think the the members of the
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Daniel Simmons: Peer review their mixer can be unmuted so that they can ask me some from from a demo, as well as you can type in chat. If you have any, any questions, and I will try my best.
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Daniel Simmons: To answer them for for a few minutes since since we have what is potentially a an interactive situation. Let's try a little bit to be to be interactive. So if there's any questions.
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Daniel Simmons: Fire away. And
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Bob Gemmer: I can hear the secretary and we'll look for the questions.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you Daniel. This is Nancy Margolis I believe the other peer reviewers are muted. So I'm going to see if any of them submitted question by chat.
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Daniel Simmons: Okay.
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Nancy Margolis: So reviewers, feel free.
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Nancy Margolis: To chat a question.
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Nancy Margolis: In the meantime, Daniel. Can you tell me, could you tell us a little more about
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Nancy Margolis: Who you're collaborating with on some of the on the water challenges he mentioned that this is an interagency effort, and I assume other offices within Dealey as well. Could you just tell us who your some of those agencies and offices, you're working with.
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Daniel Simmons: Yes, that is
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Daniel Simmons: One of the things that the that the administration has really stressed is a lot of work and collaboration around water there has been a
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Daniel Simmons: I don't know if the group actually has an official title. It is colloquially colloquially called the water sub-cabinet and that is EPA
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Daniel Simmons: Department of Interior.
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Daniel Simmons: Army Corps of Engineers Noah.
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Daniel Simmons: Trying to think if I have forgotten. Anyone, anyone I probably Department of Agriculture and so we meet every three weeks or so.
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Daniel Simmons: And it is, you know, senior leadership of those organizations, what we bring to the table is is a lot of the work that I just was talking about in terms of water.
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Daniel Simmons: Obviously, one of the things that we want to make sure that we are working together on as as much as possible, that we are as well coordinated as much as possible. I'm because of this, I
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Daniel Simmons: Can much more easily pick up the phone and talk to, you know, talk to the head of the water office or talk to the Bureau of Reclamation
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Daniel Simmons: Which is, you know, very important or because of, say, some of the work that our
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Daniel Simmons: Water Power technology office is doing, being able to will talk with the Bureau of Reclamation, but also with our wind office. I'm looking offshore wind
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Daniel Simmons: To be able to coordinate with the with the regulators at at the Department of Interior, so this is this is very important for us, just as an administration to to make sure that there's a lot of coordination as much coordination, as we can, around, around water so
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Daniel Simmons: I now have some questions that I that I see in chat.
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Nancy Margolis: There was definitely the the the reviewers are unmuted. So Paul with Paul Brian, would you like to ask your question in person.
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Nancy Margolis: Well, maybe he's not unmuted. And so it can you see Daniel
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Daniel Simmons: One of those energy options is energy efficiency and I think it is important that we are working because anytime that you're being more efficient. That will help people's bottom lines. There's a lot of the work that we do that is focused on that.
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Daniel Simmons: Like guess it's a meeting next week that I have that we just had some preparation for earlier today on better buildings and better plans with just working with people around the country on helping companies achieve their energy efficiency goals. So, energy efficiency is is always important.
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Daniel Simmons: But it's also important that we have. I mean, making sure that the economy is starting to grow again after this massive pummeling that we've taken lately. I think is, is the number one goal.
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Daniel Simmons: as we as we start to improve, that's where I think it's also important that we we work on those environmental goals as as well to continue to make to make sure that that we're doing a good job environmentally as we are doing as we are working on the economy.
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Daniel Simmons: Another question is, what are the potential research opportunities of advanced manufacturing for the pandemic related to coven
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Daniel Simmons: The carbon fiber facility that was stood up by a mo and the vehicle technology office. One of the things that that they did in response to cover 19 was to work on a and 95 mask material that could be cost effectively produced
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Daniel Simmons: Making n 95 masks, as well as, you know, you saw it from the, from the automobile OEM having a wider supply of companies that can can make things such as as complex equipment such as as ventilators off the top my head. Those are some, those are some things that have happened.
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Daniel Simmons: And then as we think to the future, an area that is not really advanced manufacturing, but making sure with building air circulation technologies that those air circulation technologies are
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Daniel Simmons: And I think that the easy answer, there would be the supply chains that impact domestic manufacturing, generally, what are all those i don't i don't have the good answers, but that is why the that we have assembled, you know, such a
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Daniel Simmons: So this is a this is an area that I've, I've really tried to stress with with our entire team and that is
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Daniel Simmons: Another question is, what what era mo role do you envision I in decarbonizing of industrial manufacturing, you know this, I think, really gets to the, the role of energy efficiency.
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Daniel Simmons: The answer is that that's very much. I think work in progress. And one of the, I think one of the challenges and one of our concerns that we have had as a as a department. Well, I can, I can stay categorically that that is a concern for the Department
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Daniel Simmons: I believe they worked with Australia. I didn't mean to say, Australia, though we have worked some with the Australian I meant to say Canada and Brazil to have agreements with them to to work more closely in terms of raw materials.
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Daniel Simmons: Battery recycling center at Argonne National Laboratory, because once those materials are in the country. We need to do as good a job as possible, or recycling them and and moving that forward so
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Daniel Simmons: Again, I think that that is a very good question. I'll make sure to ask about Valerie Leitner and the rest of the HMO leadership team what they think about that in the future because that's a, that's a good question.
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Daniel Simmons: One more question, energy efficiency and Corona safety may have may have to be rethought moving forward around air circulation and buildings playing trains any effort.
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Daniel Simmons: Yes, that is an effort that is an effort that our billing technology office in particular is is looking at working with ashtray and the industry, thinking about recirculation
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Daniel Simmons: So there is that. That's the beginning of our the beginning of our efforts in that area. So with that, thank you very much. Again, thank you very much for your time. Thank you for asking questions.
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Daniel Simmons: That's why that's, that's why we're here. So with that, I will hand it back, am I handing it back to you, Bob are
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Bob Gemmer: You can hand it back to exit.
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Daniel Simmons: Or to Valerie. There we go. I'll hand it back to Valerie.
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Valri Lightner: Okay, thanks. Thanks, Daniel and. Thanks, Bob.
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Valri Lightner: So I just wanted before I get started with my presentation. I just wanted to mention that as we were thinking about
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Valri Lightner: The materials. We're going to present at the peer review this year, we wanted to make sure that we were weaving in responses to some of the comments that we heard from our peer review panel last year.
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Valri Lightner: And one of those was about doing a better job of telling some of our success stories. So I'm going to be sharing some of the recent successes that we that some of our projects have had
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Valri Lightner: There were some comments about engaging with stakeholders to better better clarify our message and maybe simplifying that the different technology areas that we're working with and
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Valri Lightner: Diana will be talking about about those activities. What we've already accomplished and what our plans are going forward.
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Valri Lightner: In relation to analysis activities of doing a better job of understanding the potential impact of
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Valri Lightner: Potential impact of some of the projects that we're funding and also doing a better job of looking back on projects that we've funded and having lessons learned from those Joe was going to talk about some of our pilot efforts in that regard.
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Valri Lightner: Partnering with other agencies that have expertise in key areas like critical materials and you just heard from Daniel on some of the things that we're we're doing on that in relation to the action plan that's in support of the executive order.
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Valri Lightner: And then also tomorrow when you're hearing presentations from our technology managers. You'll, you'll be hearing their portfolio perspective and how their portfolio is links back to some of the overarching ammo goals and objectives.
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Valri Lightner: So I guess I'll go ahead and then and move them into my presentation. And I'm really just, I'm going to give a really high level overview
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Valri Lightner: Again, just a reminder of our vision, the context of manufacturing and energy some over high level goals. Then I'll shift into some of those successes of recent project accomplishments and then I'll talk about some of the funding opportunities that we currently have open
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Valri Lightner: So this slide kind of gives you an overview of of a mo in general. So our vision is a vision that we share with industry is that is that the US would regain global leadership and manufacturing
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Valri Lightner: And the advanced manufacturing role is our mission and that is to catalyze research, development and adoption of advanced manufacturing technologies.
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Valri Lightner: And we do that by executing a budget that in fiscal year 20 is 390 $5 million. That's the largest budget our program has has ever had.
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Valri Lightner: And we execute in three areas through research and development projects through research and development consortia and through technical assistance, our team currently is about 70 and that is both contractor fellows and federal staff that work to execute that mission.
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Valri Lightner: Men manufacturing represents about a quarter of the energy that's used in the United States.
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Valri Lightner: Manufacturing employs about 13 million people in the United States and represents 11% of our GDP energy is is important to manufacturing and reducing the cost of energy.
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Valri Lightner: Right now manufacturers spend about 200 billion each year on energy costs. So whatever we can do to help manufacturer low manufacturer of lower their energy bills is is
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Valri Lightner: Part of our mission. And that's really what we want to do. We have five key goals that we work on the first two are related to that energy mission. The first one is reducing reducing on
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Valri Lightner: Improving the productivity. But reducing the energy intensity basically of manufacturing processes.
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Valri Lightner: The second one looks at the lifecycle impact lifecycle energy and resource impact of manufactured goods and we want to reduce that
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Valri Lightner: We want to leverage the resources that we have in the United States, both energy resources and resources that go into manufacturing our goods. So, you know, that would include water and critical materials that Daniel spoke about
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Valri Lightner: They will take and use here in the United States and that workforce component that Daniel mentioned as well. It's important that we have some activities and developing a workforce and retraining the workforce to for the new technologies that are coming forward.
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Valri Lightner: This slide we showed it last year, too. It's an update, showing that our budgets have been growing since fiscal year 13 they've almost
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Valri Lightner: Grown by a factor of four. But our federal staff has remained pretty flat.
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Valri Lightner: I, I am happy to mention, though, that we are making progress. We've been approved to hire 48 federal staff on the MO team.
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Valri Lightner: We have five offers that have actually been accepted in Oregon and negotiation, so will be up to 38 hopefully in the coming month or two.
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Valri Lightner: And for triple as fellows accepted offers within a demo. So that'll give us four fellows to really strengthen the technical competency of our team. So we're looking looking forward to bring in those folks on board.
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Valri Lightner: And I'm going to shift here and this successes and I've kind of broken the these up into three three different types of successes. The first couple
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Valri Lightner: The second is going to talk about a couple of examples of projects we've started a pilot field validation effort this year.
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Valri Lightner: And the third one will get to some of the examples in the end. This relates to one of the questions that were asked about some of the things that we're doing in partnership with national labs and industry in response to cope at night needs.
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Valri Lightner: So the first example is in our high performance computing. And in this program. This is where we open the doors to the National Labs.
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Valri Lightner: So that their high performance computing capabilities can be used to address manufacturing challenges and in this particular example, it was a partnership between Livermore and vitro glass, where the
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Valri Lightner: The second example of using our expertise within the National Labs is our that our plans program, which I consider our signature program for technical assistance.
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Valri Lightner: An energy efficiency goal and typically we're looking for partners to commit to reducing energy intensity by 25% over 10 years
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Valri Lightner: And the, the experts at the National Labs provide assistance and identifying opportunities for reducing the energy use. They also provide training to enable companies to identify their own opportunities themselves and things like scheme systems or motor systems.
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Valri Lightner: And currently we have over 230 partners that have joined better as better plants partners and that represents over 3000 manufacturing plants.
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Valri Lightner: And since 2009 with us when this program was kicked off these partners has saved over 6 billion and their energy bills.
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Valri Lightner: And and it this program continues to grow. So in the past year we've just brought on new partners.
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Valri Lightner: Such as vitro and agricultural glass Belmont industries Miami Miami Dade water and sewer Occidental chemical and Easton manufacturing
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Valri Lightner: And this this first effort is to to validate a technology that was developed by flash steel works and they're a small business innovative research awardee of a CMOS and they have developed a new heat treating process to manufacturer high strength steel from a low grade carbon steel.
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Valri Lightner: And on a lab scale today, they've proven the technology.
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Valri Lightner: And the technology has excellent cold stamping performance and weld ability that makes it a good option for cost effective lightweight eating and vehicles.
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Valri Lightner: The goal of about verification and validation effort and we're doing this in partnership with Oakridge is to confirm the ability to process to scale to commercially relevant production rate with predictable and repeatable mechanical properties of the high strength steel.
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Valri Lightner: A second example is with surf tech and surf tech is one of our next generation electric machine partners and they've developed a nano composite code post voting for journal barrels that has a potential to reduce energy losses and electric motors.
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Valri Lightner: And this goes towards our overall that energy intensity bowl that we have. So, reducing the manufacturing energy intensity, intensity and
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Valri Lightner: Aware as compared to conventional coatings that contain blood. And so it's also an environmentally more sound coding product. And those are currently being used for for this validation effort. We're working with in morale to to validate the
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Valri Lightner: The efficiency improvements in a megawatt scale motor at their flat orange campus and the expected benefits for this technology is electrical efficiency improvement of 95% and 10% reduction and friction and a 10% increase in where life.
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Valri Lightner: And then next couple of examples are related to efforts between the national labs and industry partners and responding to cove it, and particularly to develop manufacturing capabilities for masks ventilators and consumables that have become
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Valri Lightner: The, the effort with the National Labs is being led by the Office of Science, but a mo has been partnering and both technical management and technical assistance with
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Valri Lightner: Both the Office of Science and the National Labs. And one of the things I think that this this these kind of responses show is the
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Valri Lightner: The programs like the advanced manufacturing office have been funding for years. So these relationships exist between the national labs and their regional industrial partners that enable them to to develop projects like this and and quickly respond to the needs of coven
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Valri Lightner: They identified that the pre forms the soda bottle pre forms that Coca Cola use look a lot like test tubes and would possibly be an opportunity for quick scaling to make the test tubes that are needed for test kits. So, so they worked with Coca Cola to
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Valri Lightner: Make connections with them to some of the testing laboratories and it turned out that that these pre forms and these are you know the little plastic tubes that are
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Valri Lightner: Could have a top that would prevent leakage during transport. So just earlier this week there was after
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Valri Lightner: Positive test results with the with the various labs Coca Cola issued a press release that they've actually started to manufacturer these test tubes and they produced oversell 7 million tubes today.
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Valri Lightner: Ronnie love realized that his neighbor actually was the inventor of the in 95 mask and he had recently retired from the University of Tennessee, but still lived in the neighborhood. So, Lonnie reached out to Dr. Peter I and got him to come in and work with the folks at the
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Valri Lightner: Carbon fiber Technology Facility.
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Valri Lightner: The team is also opening up and this is the same for some of the work that they've done on masks and test tubes, they've they've opened up.
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Valri Lightner: Another example, this was outside of the national labs where a team has been responsive is a team of students and professors at Georgia Tech were they developed and then rapidly deployed.
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Valri Lightner: 10s of thousands of low cost cleanup will face shields into the metro Atlanta medical area you students are actually part of an ammo funded traineeship program.
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Valri Lightner: It focuses on preparing the next generation of engineers and technologies like digital manufacturing and 3D printing and they were able to quickly respond because of the work that they had already been doing and the foundation that the
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Valri Lightner: And this program is an example of some of the work that a mo is doing towards our goal of doubling training and education activities and advanced manufacturing to make sure that there's a workforce.
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Valri Lightner: From current water sources. And so we currently only use 3% of our water sources to make the water that our water needs so opening up
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Valri Lightner: And then just a couple of weeks ago, we announced the selection of the University of Texas at San Antonio for cyber security for
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Valri Lightner: We also announced in February 55 new project from our fiscal year 19 multi topic float fella. I think there was a question about how we coordinate with other programs.
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Valri Lightner: One example was a topic on using manufacturing to help lower the cost of battery energy storage. And that was a topic that
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Valri Lightner: Was jointly funded with our vehicle technologies program and jointly developed with vehicle technologies program and it was the largest topic from from this this Sunday, an opportunity
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Valri Lightner: The piece that a mo is connected to his on advanced manufacturing and supply chain. So, and making sure that there are domestic supply chains for the materials that are required in energy storage systems.
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Valri Lightner: We also are working very closely with the bio energy technology office and Office of Science on the plastics innovation challenge.
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Valri Lightner: And this list our current funding opportunities and Daniel mentioned several of these also he mentioned our multi topic. So that was just released a couple weeks ago.
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Valri Lightner: As three key technologies. He mentioned the critical materials where its scale up a separation and processing technologies water mentioned the water security prize that that closed last week. So we're currently evaluating applications that came in for that.
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Valri Lightner: We also have opportunities that are joining opportunities in the bottom right hand corner with both the
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Valri Lightner: And also just a couple weeks ago we released a lab call for a jointly with the vehicle technologies program.
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Valri Lightner: Where we heard that there was a need from industry to for assistance and scaling new energy storage technologies and specifically battery introduced storage technologies. So, this this lab call looks to take advantage of the capabilities within the national labs to to scale.
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Valri Lightner: Make sure that companies can get connected to potential industry partners and to additional National Lab partners, if they're interested in and taking advantage of this opportunity.
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Diana Bauer: Thanks, Valerie. Yeah. So I'm going to talk about our strategy development, which is really a process which we've been developing over the course of the last year, actually, a year ago, I attended the peer review meeting. And that was my first
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Diana Bauer: Meeting at a demo, I wasn't quite even an HMO employee yet. So this is, I've been here about a year working on trying to
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Diana Bauer: Develop this strategic process for the office and some of what we what we're trying to do in the strategic process. Our first to understand the the offices investments as a system as an interconnected system second to access that strategic thinking of staff.
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Diana Bauer: And third, to connect with industry and other stakeholders to understand current needs and also envision the future of manufacturing and all of this, the backbone throughout is informed by this cheap strategic analysis that you'll hear from Joe. Joe Crespo about after my presentation.
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Diana Bauer: So, um, we have, I mean, as you've already heard a mo has a very diverse both deep and broad portfolio of work and and sometimes it can be difficult to
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Diana Bauer: Kind of even understand what what what we do because it seems like we do so much and I think, you know, I think, I think some of the other offices within er E are fairly narrowly focused and that's
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Diana Bauer: Appropriate for their mission. But I think for a mo it's important for us to embrace our broad role. And yet, figure out how to be strategic. So
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Diana Bauer: We've, we've kind of developed this chart to show the the top down and bottom up approaches that we take within the office. So you've heard through the remarks by Daniel and also by Valerie of these
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Diana Bauer: National needs at the top of this chart energy storage through the energy storage Grand Challenge critical materials through the federal strategy on critical materials and also
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Diana Bauer: Work within the department across the department plastics, the plastics innovation challenge cybersecurity. The the
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Diana Bauer: Institute. That was just stood up and the water security Grand Challenge supported by the now we end the energy, water desalination hub. So all of these all of these
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Diana Bauer: So, so, you know, those are they're they're sort of, they're very broad and and sort of figuring out how to prioritize what we're doing with those very broad spaces can be challenging.
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Diana Bauer: And and so we bring in the analysis that's in the middle of this chart that the systems analysis integrated integrative approach to help us to prioritize where
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Diana Bauer: To put focused investment, where to apply focused investment within these topic areas, whether it be in material materials and processing electronics manufacturer chemical processes sensors and controls or other other fundamental and applied science foundation
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Diana Bauer: Be combined in different ways to get to national need so we can we can think bottom up as well. And think about okay, given these fundamentals.
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Diana Bauer: What might be an emerging national meet. How can we use our integrative approaches, our systems analyses to help us think about how these might combine and build to form.
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Diana Bauer: Some future national priority. So we're trying to think both top down and bottom up as we as we understand our portfolio in different ways.
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Diana Bauer: Those are kind of strategic process. The, the inside those green solid green arrows show kind of the annual process. So we come up with our spend plan our prioritization of spending for
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Diana Bauer: And the items around the outside here are kind of how we engage with our investment portfolio to think about future spend plans so um we gather external input, such as from all of you at this external review we we do strategic analysis as, as you'll hear from Joe after after my
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Diana Bauer: Remarks here, we had this year we had a very fairly substantial effort to hear from over a dozen national laboratories on their capabilities on their interests.
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Diana Bauer: on sort of what they thought might be the future of manufacturing the kind of opportunities needs, etc. And then we've also. We also have a fairly extensive set of
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Diana Bauer: Adaptive approaches to stakeholder input this year, originally envisioned does workshops. But, you know, like, like everyone, we're adapting to
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Diana Bauer: So just going a little bit more detail. Thinking about how funding opportunities feed into an investment portfolio, as I mentioned, our funding opportunities.
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Diana Bauer: And the selected projects coming out of those funding funding funding opportunities address national needs, such as the ones that I mentioned earlier also, as, as, as I think you know we have significant
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Diana Bauer: Follow that in many cases, and then also you know it's it's it's our part of our role to envision the manufacturing enterprise of the future and what would be needed.
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Diana Bauer: Both at the fundamental level and also at the systems integration level to enable the manufacturing enterprise of the future. So as I mentioned before, we have
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Diana Bauer: develops new funding topics through strategic analysis that you'll hear about from Joe stakeholder workshops. And in this case, this year webinars.
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Diana Bauer: National Laboratory listening sessions and then reflecting on the investment portfolio. The collection of work that we already have supported
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Diana Bauer: We have peer review all of you. We really appreciate
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Diana Bauer: And look forward to your, your, we appreciate your, your time and attention and we look forward to your feedback.
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Diana Bauer: Also I'm introspective portfolio assessment that you'll hear about from from Joe Crespo verification and validation and field validation. Would you heard a little bit about from Valerie and you'll hear more about from Joe
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Diana Bauer: So last year's peer review gave us some feedback that we're, we're trying to address. So, for example,
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Diana Bauer: That the the panel wanted to see us organizing technology areas, areas into a higher level framework. So you've seen our preliminary initial thinking about this framework, over the course of coming months will work to refine the framework and further develop it.
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Diana Bauer: Another comment you had was to perform more retrospective analyses to identify communicate and implement lessons learned.
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Diana Bauer: And require every program to estimate energy and projected economic impacts and as part of this package of of
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Diana Bauer: Analysis we're requiring the new project proposals to include estimates on energy impacts and the like. And, and, finally, identifying a most biggest successes and best practices we have initiated.
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Diana Bauer: A we have initiated a process by which we are gathering and developing success stories over the course of this year and you heard about some of those from from Valerie and her presentation.
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Diana Bauer: And and and also to help us understand how best we can, we can build from what we're supporting right now to get to future future work.
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Diana Bauer: And then prospective analysis is more looking at where the potential is for impact in the future, both in terms of
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Diana Bauer: What, what could happen. And in terms of markets or opportunities and future scenarios as well as technical breakthroughs that could make a big difference. But of course, this year with with co bid, we see that there's there's potential for disruption, as well as
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Diana Bauer: You know, sort of anticipated scenarios. So I think, I think, an important aspect of the overall manufacturing system is to think about how to make it. How to help support its nimbleness and robustness under, under changing conditions as well as
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Diana Bauer: So over the course of this year, our technical staff within the office have developed a collection of technical white papers and this these white papers have built on office knowledge, including historical investments recent investments and historical investments and hot past workshops
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Diana Bauer: The, the technical staff have framed and refined these ideas using a bottom up and top down approach clarified opportunity areas uncovered linkages and
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Diana Bauer: Late laid out the current state of the field and kind of where the opportunities lie in 2021 and beyond. Now we've these white papers kind of address all let levels of that chart early in the in the presentation so
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Diana Bauer: From the perspective of national needs from the perspective of fundamental systems methods and then from the perspective of fundamental and applied science.
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Diana Bauer: And we had a we had an off site. Earlier this year, where all the all the technical managers who had developed these white papers presented to each other and kind of learn from each other on how
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Diana Bauer: Oh, thank you.
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Diana Bauer: Okay so we are also in the process of gathering stakeholder input from workshops and other request for information.
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Diana Bauer: And as I mentioned, of course, most of these workshops are now virtual that we did manage to have one or two before. Before we we shut down or before we we started working remotely.
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Diana Bauer: So in general, we're trying to understand
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Diana Bauer: The current challenges and emerging opportunities and build from the white papers and
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Diana Bauer: Next slide please.
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Diana Bauer: Thank you.
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Diana Bauer: As I mentioned, we have we've had this year National Laboratory listening. Set the sessions where we asked we we we shared
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Diana Bauer: Our public publicly available multi year program plan and asked folks to weigh in on where their capabilities aligned with our interests, but we also ask the National Lab labs to envision the future of manufacturing and
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Diana Bauer: Where they saw a role for
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Diana Bauer: Themselves and the, the, the national laboratories as a complex to participate in the future of manufacturing
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Diana Bauer: So in terms of what we heard
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Diana Bauer: We heard that, that the complex and I think I think from Valerie's talk. It's also clear that the complex as well position to address national needs and manufacturing
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Diana Bauer: Another important aspect is they offer specialized equipment for testing and for
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Diana Bauer: And there was a lot stressed in in these meetings about advances in computation in material science to transform that US manufacturing
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Diana Bauer: And so we're still kind of working on how we will how we will
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Diana Bauer: Draw from what we learned in the national laboratories listening sessions as we as we envision and pursue our next
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Diana Bauer: Our next set of work.
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Diana Bauer: Next slide please.
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Diana Bauer: Thanks.
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Diana Bauer: So, so, following the National Laboratory meeting.
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Diana Bauer: Talked about industry 4.0 and talked about how they wanted to move beyond industry 4.0 in terms of thinking about a transformation in manufacturing. So thinking about the the sort of Internet of Things.
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Diana Bauer: Aspects of industry 4.0 but then also building in
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Diana Bauer: Circular Economy resiliency, etc. So another white paper that the office is now working on is related to the future of manufacturing a transformation beyond what is is often talked about in industry 4.0
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Diana Bauer: And emos roll here would be focused on accelerating the development of new materials and processes.
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Diana Bauer: Capitalizing on advanced sensors and controls related to intelligent manufacturing or smart manufacturing across supply chains, enabling the circular economy to extend and expand the life of raw materials through multiple life cycles.
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Diana Bauer: Attracting developing and growing tomorrow's manufacturing workforce and
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Diana Bauer: To develop and pursue an integrated vision for this future of manufacturing
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Diana Bauer: Next slide please.
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Diana Bauer: Finally, we're in the process of developing an HMO annual report that would be a holistic view of how a most work influences and responds to national needs in manufacturing
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Diana Bauer: And so in this in this annual report, we would
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Diana Bauer: Further further explain and develop this this structural and and systematic framework that I've talked about here.
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Diana Bauer: Present energy and material impact analysis to help to frame and prioritize put our put our work in context and help us really reflect on our impact.
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Diana Bauer: Community communicating successes building from what you heard earlier and Valerie's presentation.
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Diana Bauer: Characterizing future opportunities. And then finally, informing audiences on avenues for collaboration.
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Diana Bauer: So I'm a mo drives energy and material efficiency and manufacturing is one of the important messages, a most technology investments help to build a stronger US manufacturing sector.
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Diana Bauer: We collaborate with a lot of different actors and we provide valuable technical assistance to us manufacturers and
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Diana Bauer: Finally, you know, and this is
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Diana Bauer: Covert developments our support for the manufacturing industry enables a nimble response to national need. So I think being able to think about ourselves as
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Diana Bauer: being responsive to emerging needs or, you know, current priorities for the nation, but then also building in that infrastructure or that architecture of the industrial sector that enables that to be
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Diana Bauer: Both resilient and responsive as as the situation changes and needs evolve. So I think we're interested in taking, you know, taking the long view in order to be responsive to
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Diana Bauer: Change and even disruption.
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Diana Bauer: And that's the end of my presentation. And now I'll, I'll hand it over to Joe
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Cresko: Thanks. DIANA.
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Cresko: Let's see if I can
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Cresko: Take control the screen and
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Cresko: Be able to advance my slides by myself. It's hard to know whether we'll be able to
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Cresko: All right.
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Cresko: So my name is Joe Crespo, I'm the chief engineer in the advanced manufacturing office and welcome. It looks like we're a little bit of head ahead of schedule which is which is generally pretty good.
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Cresko: I tend to try to cram too much information into my presentation. So who knows, maybe we'll, we'll be on time. By the time I wrap up my presentation today.
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Cresko: What what you've heard from Valerie and Diana is a really great introduction for all about the office Valerie really covered a lot of the activities that are
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Cresko: Underway the initiatives that we have undertaken with the office, how we're executing on that significant budget that Congress has appropriated Diane has given some really great insight into the strategic planning that our office does what I hope to do in the next
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Cresko: 30 minutes or so is to get the perspective on the homework that we do as an office to help support the approaches that we take the planning that we do and the priorities that we
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Cresko: That we we identify for our
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Cresko: And and to really help. Think about what that future of manufacturing looks like in a quantified way. One of the things I think is also important and what what what i think we have this interesting opportunity with our virtual
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Cresko: Peer review this year is we have many more attendees than we would normally have with an in person.
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Cresko: Meeting. And I think that's a great opportunity for us to share our thinking our homework, our background with a really broader audience and well one of the key things that our office does as a technology investment.
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Cresko: Agency is to invest in next generation manufacturing technologies. I think it's also important for us to sort of lead the way with
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Cresko: Unbiased solid analysis and and homework that really can help guide investments, not only within the department.
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Cresko: But across the US manufacturing sector and to do that. We've got a team you you see some names on the on the slide of just some of the folks at
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Cresko: Some of the national labs that really helped and and supports staff that really help do some of the work that you will see today.
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Cresko: And one of the things that you'll, you'll notice as you look at as we as we go through the slide deck is that for the information that I'm going to show today. There's a lot of background.
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Cresko: backup documentation that's available.
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Cresko: That you can find on the peer review website. So what we'll see today is a high level overview of a range of analysis activities that are under we are undertaking at at a demo so
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Cresko: From this slide. It really, you can see we echo with this that goes is the fact that mo currently has three sort of killers.
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Cresko: In which we undertake on our activities. Those R amp D projects. The r&d consortia and technical assistance pillars that that form the way a mo sort of executes and operates on its budget.
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Cresko: And underlying all of those pillars is I sort of think of maybe the Fourth Estate strategic analysis, we tried to do work that really is supportive of the investments that are made across, across those areas.
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Cresko: For folks that aren't familiar with a mo and have taken a look at our multi year program plan, which is available at the web link shown at the bottom of this slide.
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Cresko: We've identified quite a number of core technology areas that you can see in the constellation diagram at the center of this figure.
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Cresko: And beyond that, not only do we we identified that the fact that there are sort of strong interconnections between all of these sort of core technology areas.
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Cresko: And there is. In addition, a lot of sort of connections and downstream impacts and cross cutting impacts that can arise from the uptake and deployment of these sort of core advanced manufacturing technologies that can have implications across on the production and delivery of energy.
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Cresko: Impacts in the building sector invitation impacts in the transportation sector, you know, Daniel spoke a bit about clean water and that energy, water nexus. And so there are a number of areas that we can think of as emerging and cross cutting as well that this office.
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Cresko: Focuses on and undertakes for reasons that become more central to the technology investments that our office makes
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Cresko: And so what are the things that the approaches that we take is to think about is Valerie identified, not only how we can improve the energy intensity or energy efficiency and the energy footprint of the industrial sector, but how the manufacturer of of these technologies.
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Cresko: And dad's manufactured products can have downstream lifecycle impacts cross sectoral impacts.
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Cresko: So if we begin to think about doing some of our homework. Where do we start. One of the things we want to really characterize
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Cresko: And some of the approaches of course that we're taking reflecting what Diana was speaking about with where and how those opportunities and barriers and challenges exists and make impact.
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Cresko: We are the Department of Energy and we really tend to think about a lot of our impacts with that on top of that target and with the metric of energy.
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Cresko: And with the approximately 100 quads of energy that is consumed in this country on an annual basis that demand for that energy
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Cresko: A quarter of it is attributable to the manufacturing space and the industrial sector also includes another almost eight quads of energy demand.
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Cresko: From the construction mining and agriculture sectors, if you include those into that industrial space that's about a third of the energy demand of this country. But those manufactured goods, as I mentioned on the last slide.
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Cresko: Can have significant downstream impacts. So our job. Some of our homework includes doing this net energy
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Cresko: Impacts analysis to better understand not only how technologies can improve the footprint of the industrial sector, but how we can have impacts how those advanced products and advanced manufacturing technologies.
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Cresko: Can have impacts across the broader energy demand as well as energy production and delivery sectors.
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Cresko: So this slide reflects I'm a bit, it's a it's a similar should look similar, from what you just noticed in saw and Diane this presentation where we're where I've just kind of wanted to draw out folks attention to, to the center of the screen.
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Cresko: Those approaches that we actually take from a both a
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Cresko: To understanding those those impacts, whether we're looking at a more granular level within the technology focus areas that
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Cresko: currently exist and are outlined in our multi year program plan or new and emerging areas of technology interest for this office.
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Cresko: As well as national and administration priorities which include energy storage and critical materials plastics cybersecurity water upon others and others are our goal. One of our goals and objectives is to knit together a better understanding of how these
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Cresko: Targeted impacts and advancements in specific advanced manufacturing technology focus areas can roll up and have broader impacts in in priority areas.
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Cresko: simpler way we we look both arm forward prospectively at the potential of the impact of future investments.
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Cresko: We also do technology tracking we refer to this as retrospective technology tracking where after we conclude investments.
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Cresko: funding of projects by the advanced manufacturing office. We do technology tracking I'm four years after a technology has been funded
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Cresko: We want to really try to have a better understanding of the durability of those investments that we make what those impacts might be, as we all know, it takes a lot of time.
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Cresko: For often for technologies after investments in the RD phase is take place for them for those technologies to become commercialized in for an impact to be realized. So for 10 years after a technology becomes commercialized. It's tracked by
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Cresko: And one of the areas that is relatively new for this office that we started a couple, a couple of years ago. Is this more focused introspective
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Cresko: Techno economic analyses a harder. Look at identifying the performance. The energy impacts and the economics of these technologies so that we can better communicate and tailor our current portfolio through active intervention as needed or
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Cresko: Collaborating coordinating finding additional partners, thinking about future investments. And so whether it's retrospective or introspective and prospect of technology we have a broader
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Cresko: Range of analyses that we do that helps us understand the potential future investments, our current investments and our and the impact of our past investments.
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Cresko: So today what I'll do is give you a very high level overview
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Cresko: The other another example snapshot. I will give which I actually reviewed in detail. Two years ago at the 2018 peer review.
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Cresko: Was a deep dive in the sea water de salud nation bandwidth study that we undertook I will sort of re mentioned that as an example of where and how
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Cresko: Our perspective technology analyses inform the office and the investments that we make and then I'll touch on that introspective portfolio analysis.
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Cresko: And all that work that we do is really drunk driving towards providing credible and fundamental data and information to inform current and future ammo and Ii Ii Ii priorities, but we also want to put that out and do we try to do a very good job, whether it's
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Cresko: As I mentioned, five cure curious. I'll just touch on today. And all of this information will be backed up with, as I mentioned earlier, thorough deep very comprehensive slide decks that give an overview of all of these areas that the work that we undertake but
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Cresko: One of the things I'll just highlight and you can find a lot of this information, starting with foundational energy analysis tools and other pieces is that on a emos website. If you go to and you can see the web address there the link if you go to our website and scroll down on the
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Cresko: So some of the data that we develop and utilize. If you take a look, we we convert some of that information into methodologies and and tools that can help us better understand
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Cresko: In a, in a more kind of practical way what the opportunities are and so three examples of key tools that this office has developed both the methodologies for and
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Cresko: And then the tools that have been made publicly available include materials flows through industry tool that's available.
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Cresko: Being led out of Israel, looking at bio optimized thermal plastics technologies for thermal plastics and landfills in the environment very long acronym that's
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Cresko: Not only the traditional synthesis and recycling routes for the manufacturer of polyethylene terephthalate but, as well as
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Cresko: The energy demands through supply chains for different pathways through different plastics, as well as including a more circular approach to
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Cresko: Other offices, such as the bio energy technology office we seen the utilization of some of the tools that we developed in a mo taking a more sort of expansive role and and uptake, which we think is a is great.
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Cresko: As I mentioned, we, we take a hard look at data and information and we try to put this information in context.
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Cresko: On some of the more foundational, fundamental work that we do includes through bandwidth studies where we look at this energy potential savings potential across energy intensive industries and if you look at the blue bands in these
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Cresko: Bars, the snack bars that blue band represents this current sort of state of the art or perhaps
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Cresko: Opportunity that the tech assistance part of our program can really push on to drive the current footprint of some of the key.
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Cresko: energy intensive sectors down that blue bar represents not the economic, but the technical
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Cresko: Potential opportunity currently available with state of the art technologies that are out there in the marketplace.
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Cresko: The green bar represents a potential future opportunity by looking into the literature and understanding where research has developed research and development is going on globally. We can have a sense where
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Cresko: The. Where are the opportunities can have an impact on on the energy footprint. Do the total annual energy demand for these very large energy consuming energy intensive industries.
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Cresko: But as we also want to think about and and pay attention to the fact that this
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Cresko: A material like carbon fiber and the composites.
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Cresko: manufacturer of carbon fiber composites, the energy intensity of making those materials on a per pound per ton basis today is very high.
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Cresko: Even in comparison to other lightweight materials that exist and are being utilized in the production of for exam example like duty vehicles and and other vehicle technologies as well as even in
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Cresko: Applications like renewable energy technologies like wind turbines or compressed gas storage systems and others.
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Cresko: And what this really does for us as an office is it helps us crystallize and synthesize how and where we should be can be focusing on.
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Cresko: Driving the energy intensity of certain materials that will be important in the future and working today to drive that energy intensity down so that
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Cresko: The future perhaps increased uptake of those won't have seriously negative consequences on the energy footprint energy demand of the industrial sector in the future.
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Cresko: So that's a bit of a perspective of some of the
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Cresko: Tools methods and data and analyses that we do in a very foundational, fundamental way I'll
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Cresko: quickly walk through some of these key areas that I identified before water manufacturing and more connected economy. You heard Diana speak a bit more of a bit earlier about how we're thinking about beyond internet 4.0 and some of that includes us looking very
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Cresko: Closely at the information communication technologies manufacturing sector, what's happening in the US, how that the production of those technologies has changed over time.
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Cresko: What our competitiveness looks like in those sectors and, more importantly, with increasing demand of ICT information communication technology.
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Cresko: Technologies with in the manufacturing sector for smarter manufacturing sector for a smarter manufacturing sector.
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Cresko: As well as being taken up by
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Cresko: All types of
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Cresko: Technologies that we utilize on a daily basis. What, where are the future opportunities where do we see
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Cresko: Important areas to invest in as we work towards a more connected economy. So all identify
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Cresko: A few of these areas within each of these studies that you will see as we put this information out there in the coming year.
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Cresko: Some of the main topics that we're covering in a harder and deeper dive in water use and manufacturing include looking at things like estimating the water use discharge and consumption in the manufacturing sector better quantifying the value of water.
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Cresko: Establishing why this information is needed to do tech assessments evaluations and highlighting advanced technologies and process opportunities for water conservation to support better water resilience
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Cresko: And so you can see in the middle column. Some of the analyses that we're undertaking to to do that work and and in contrast to all that information I showed earlier.
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Cresko: Under that first bucket, where we have as an office have the benefit at DMV to dive into it and energy data provided by the Energy Information Administration and
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Cresko: Multiple decades of analytical work supporting that our understanding of water data is really highly impeded it's it's poorly understood
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Cresko: There are significant gaps in data that's out there and and that's something that we're trying to get a better hold on. And if you take a look at that last bullet point
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Cresko: In some of the case study topics that we're pursuing case studies based on data collected from the plant water profiler tool.
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Cresko: So this is a is another tool that we've developed within the advanced manufacturing office and has been taken up by the technical assistance technical Partnerships Program to better understand
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Cresko: Baseline the water use that's being that is used in facilities really helping manufacturers determine the true cost of water, three quarters of
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Cresko: Industrial water use comes from self supplied sources, meaning three quarters either comes from rivers or wells and you can be almost guaranteed that that
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Cresko: Demand that use of water is not really being measured. Well, and if it is, it is unlikely to have a real true economic cost associated with it and and using this information to help us identify water efficiency opportunities.
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Cresko: So,
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Cresko: Moving into the connected economy. I spoke to that a bit already and
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Cresko: Effectiveness of smart manufacturing applications and using the cost of conserved energy approaches to do that the team has published
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Cresko: A number of journal articles in this area and looking at life cycle analysis of key information communication technologies and the energy and cost impact analysis of data flows and the increasing and dramatic use of data does have implications implications of
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Cresko: Energy through use increased energy use at data centers and and others. And so we've also undertaken a number of case studies that include things like
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Cresko: iron, steel and even transportation equipment manufacturing
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Cresko: So we can sort of think about some key deep dive questions that we're pursuing what does smart manufacturing specifically mean, for example, within the iron, steel and automotive industries. What does a smart facility look like, how can those
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Cresko: Smart manufacturing technologies effects supply chains. And what are those opportunities.
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Cresko: What are the data that is being collected and and how can that data be better used and what are the opportunities for example for better data analytics.
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Cresko: Even machine learning and text analytics and artificial intelligence to be deployed and what are the challenges for continued and and vigorous uptake of smart manufacturing technologies within the manufacturing sector.
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Cresko: So the last kind of key study that we've been undertaking this year is in the area sustainable manufacturing and what we're really trying to do there is take a comprehensive look for folks that have read the technology assessment.
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Cresko: Add that that a mo prepared a few years ago in sustainable manufacturing, it's quite comprehensive
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Cresko: And if you think about that constellation diagram that I showed earlier sustainable manufacturing has a has a connection to every single technology area in which a mo invest. And that makes sense because if our approach is to think about
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Cresko: The directing and. NET lifecycle energy impacts the environmental implications of the technologies in which we invest, we need to bring sustainable manufacturing approaches to all manufacturing
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Cresko: Sectors and all manufacturing paradigms and be able to do better LCA type approaches net energy impact studies on on all those technologies.
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Cresko: And we've been extending our approach to deploy a sort of a wedge based analysis to better visualize these visualize and communicate those opportunities and those impacts that provides a material and energy and a carbon accounting and
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Cresko: And and a number of case studies.
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Cresko: One example a case study that is
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Cresko: being undertaken is in the cement industry and what is the potential for example for electrification greater electrification and this Annette industry, we need to baseline that those processes.
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Cresko: Understand and document the energy and process inputs cross reference that with existing LCA databases that are available globally.
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Cresko: Understand ultimately the material energy and emissions impact scenario and try to forecast those out, because as we all know.
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Cresko: The energy sector is transforming we're seeing more
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Cresko: Of a move towards
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Cresko: The grid, the electric grid being decarbonised and while
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Cresko: The deployment today of technologies may not yet a electrify technologies may not make sense in some cases.
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Cresko: We need to understand as we move forward, where those tipping points are. And at what point I'm greater uptake of electrification in the industrial sector may make sense.
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Cresko: So,
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Cresko: we've undertaken a wide range of sort of analyses in these areas. This includes I'm trying to capture
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Cresko: The
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Cresko: The range of reacts pathways meeting reuse repurposing
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Cresko: Recovery manufacturing recycling and where and what times in what regions of the country for what technologies might those pathways make sense. And in many ways, this does refer reef revert to a bit of a hot spot analysis for us to better understand what reacts pathways.
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Cresko: Are most
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Cresko: impactful.
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Cresko: And what that looks like in a prospective way and we can think about things like
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Cresko: Daniel mentioned
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Cresko: The resell center that's been developed out at Argonne National Labs and the impacts of battery recycling on not only the rare earths that are included there, but all of the materials that go into
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Cresko: Next Generation batteries energy storage technologies.
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Cresko: And I did want to mention this is a kind of a
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Cresko: Crowded graphic. But the point is that through the x on the X axis, what you see are all of the task areas that are being undertaken by the strategic analysis team within
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Cresko: Our analytical efforts. So while they're not identified, other than by number these represent a number of targeted.
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Cresko: Analytical deep dives that the team has been undertaking undertaken and that sort of mapped against it. Just a very generic stacked bar chart approach interaction and participation by other era offices.
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Cresko: What we have been doing over the past year is taking a highly integrated approach and developing a strategy and a plan for more circular economy that includes all of the era offices.
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Cresko: And this came out of big ideas that was proposed era wide last year and
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Cresko: Was given the thumbs up to proceed. And so we've been working diligently on taking our approaches for sustainable manufacturing and working closely with all the other participating era offices to look at opportunities for sustainable manufacturing and a more circular economy.
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Cresko: So,
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Cresko: I've got a few minutes left to wrap this up. And I wanted to touch quickly on some of the
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Cresko: work that we've done in the past. As I mentioned earlier, two years ago I did a deep dive presentation at the 2018 peer review and you can pull that up and take a look at that, where the work that we did, looking very hard at desalination technologies and the potential for improving that
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Cresko: ultimately resulted in
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Cresko: Informed a Lowes direction and guided our investment in what is now now we, the National Alliance for water innovation. And so the work that we did fall you one and two.
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Cresko: A survey available information and Dan with study on the outreach that we did through a series of workshops was a significant amount of homework that helped lay out on the approach and potential for
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Cresko: Where ammo made its investments, so that work we did played a major role in planning of the hub.
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Cresko: We did reports in a peer reviewed journal paper with developed a better understand the science all that analysis, the projections of energy related impacts and that analysis was used directly in the funding opportunity announcement. And if you want more sort of details on that.
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Cresko: Here's a sort of a snapshot earlier I showed the
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Cresko: Bandwidth studies applied to
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Cresko: A large energy consuming industrial sectors and we applied that same methodology here to take a hard look at where
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Cresko: Current state of the art technologies that exist commercially available today broken down by the fundamental unit operations of intake pretreatment desalination host treatment or concentrate management.
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Cresko: Where those technologies could have an impact and where future technology advancements would be needed that could drive that energy footprint of desalination.
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Cresko: Down and what we are of course show if you see that pie chart at the bottom, it's mostly gray, it's no surprise that that very energy intensive
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Cresko: Electrons to water operation is the driver and where the opportunities to improve of that exist. I wanted to show this very complicated sharp chart to simply make one point.
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Cresko: The pathway, you see with the black arrows and the blue arrow see water through a couple of key.
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Cresko: Technologies to municipal public water supply is the bounds of the work that was done in the desalination bandwidth study and it formed a basis of the pathways for other alternate water sources, whether it's wastewater.
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Cresko: brackish waters lower high solidity and other sources that now he is undertaking in their road mapping efforts to better understand opportunities for desalination not only from seawater, but from other sources of water.
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Cresko: Number Four out of five introspective portfolio assessment. I mentioned earlier that last year I gave a presentation of this peer review and of course that one can be pulled up, excuse me, as well, where we took a hard look and took to heart.
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Cresko: Suggestions by the peer reviewers in the prior year to develop
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Cresko: A better methodology and approaches for doing a broader assessment of our portfolio introspective Lee and our approach here is to better and more effectively assess and communicate
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Cresko: The progress and the impacts the contributions of this currently funded portfolio and and how they they really map to our goals and success indicators and that is a significant
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Cresko: Level of work and the recommendations in 2018 included the expanded use
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Cresko: Of TA techno economic assessments, ranging from proposal selection and project and implementation to expanded collaboration among ammo technology managers.
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Cresko: And that work is been underway. We have been piloting this in a number of areas and making I think a dent in in that space have better understanding
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Cresko: Where and how our technology investments are having an impact. And over the next and tomorrow presentations from some of the technology managers, I think you'll get to get some insight into that. So this includes
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Cresko: The approach includes looking hard at the current state of the technology.
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Cresko: And what's the desired state of the technology.
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Cresko: Funding Opportunity Announcement starting in FYI 19 the multi topic funding opportunity announcement that Valerie reviewed.
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Cresko: Indicated that we indicated to applicants that they very clearly needed to define the baseline the desired state of that their technology might take and
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Cresko: What those metrics are that they would be using in those projects to measure progress along the way. And we've been working to synthesize that work and connect it
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Cresko: To our
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Cresko: Methodology within the IPA system and and developing that out and some of those benefits for doing that, of course, include alignment with our goals, our strategic priorities are metrics communicating, whether it's within and low but also out to broader stakeholders.
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Cresko: And ultimately
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Cresko: Supporting David data driven decisions in the within the projects, but across the portfolio in the program and provide a consistent
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Cresko: Evaluation tracking and reporting framework and we have a slide deck that is included in the backup probably 30 slides that cover.
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Cresko: All the work that's been undertaken this past year in the IPA work so you can get into those details as well. The last thing I'll touch on. I just wanted to not leave out the fact that we do this retrospective.
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Cresko: Assessment where we do tracking of technologies that have been commercialized previously by the office and
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Cresko: That work is done by p&l the tracking begins with a technology when it technology is considered commercial
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Cresko: It's got to be in a commercial setting continues for 10 years that the technologies and operation. This includes things like units solar installed energy saved.
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Cresko: environmental benefits improvements in quality other impacts as well. It could be clued employment effects on health and safety and and other things.
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Cresko: But by doing that, it really tries. I think gives us a sense of where investments we made in the past had an impact. And I just wanted to show one example. Kind of interesting, and that
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Cresko: Has been tracked in the past and kind of connects with current work that we're doing in the plastics innovation challenge and you'll hear more about tomorrow.
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Cresko: Mo invested back in
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Cresko: The 2000s on on textile recycling with a project with Shaw industries and p&l track that work.
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Cresko: Track the impacts of that technology as they commercialized it and put it into implementation and an information like that really helps us
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Cresko: Understand the, the, the potential for energy savings and some other data that was gathered in from the from that time. So what's next, we're developing a database.
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Cresko: For data management and analysis to coordinate that both that introspective and retrospective portfolio work and what we mean by that is if you can think about the IPA work that we're doing now.
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Cresko: A database of those technologies in our portfolio. There's a more seamless handoff to the technology tracking over time. After we stop our investments. After the investments within a mo are completed. And with that, I think it's 245 on the nose, I would like to
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Cresko: Thanks, everyone, for tuning in. You can of course go to the website and as I mentioned school to data and analysis for some of this information. I want to thank
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Cresko: The broader ammo strategic analysis team for all this great work that they are do have been doing. And thank you for listening and
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Cresko: I hope this was helpful. So thanks very much.
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Cresko: Bob, I think you need to unmute if you were talking there.
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Cresko: Well,
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Cresko: I think Bob is trying to say that
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Now, are you, I
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Bob Gemmer: Don't know how it happened. Can you hear me.
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Bob Gemmer: Yep, good. Thank you. Well, we have about half an hour break actually a little bit less, we'll be starting precisely at 315
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Bob Gemmer: Take a chance. Stretch your legs.
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Bob Gemmer: Get a little loosened up because we have another half a day to go yet. Thanks. See you in a bit.
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Bob Gemmer: Okay, we are now on record.
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Bob Gemmer: We can start
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Bob Gemmer: Now, hey, we're turning it over now to Lauren Hall our operations supervisor discuss our budget and then she'll take on the task of introducing Mike and so on. Take care.
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Lauren Hall: Hello everyone and welcome back.
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Lauren Hall: I'm going to provide an overview of the 2020 spend plan from the viewpoint of how we execute the program that is through the three pillars of r&d projects consortia and tech partnerships. I'll also give a quick overview of the
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Lauren Hall: budget request. And then finally we'll look at funds invested in F1 19 and 20 that are broken out by the six panels and the topic presentations in those panels that you'll hear about tomorrow. Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: So as Valerie mentioned earlier bipartisan support for ammo has continued to rise. Since 2013 and at most 2020 appropriation is now 395 million
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Lauren Hall: So at most 2020 budget is split as, as I said earlier by it's 50% r&d consortia 38% r&d projects and about 12% technical partnerships, a little over 260 million have a most 2020 budget is congressionally directed. And as you heard earlier, the era.
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Lauren Hall: investment priorities are identified as work and critical materials energy storage cyber water security and plastics innovation.
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Lauren Hall: The key investment areas for a demo this year include the FOA for R amp D for field validation and separation and processing technologies.
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Lauren Hall: The fo on plastics innovation and collaboration with Vito the pho topics to achieve manufacturing efficiency that focus on improvements in steel and chemical manufacturing processes.
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Lauren Hall: An upcoming fo that Valerie mentioned earlier is the focus on improving technologies for water efficiency. We also have a focus
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Lauren Hall: fo and lab work for improving manufacturing processes to lower the cost of energy storage and collaborative efforts efforts are underway there as well. And finally Institute funding for cyber security. Those are just like the, you know, some of the, the key investment.
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Lauren Hall: Priorities their next slide.
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Lauren Hall: So in the r&d projects pillar their budget is 151 million for FYI 2020 and it's broken out into three categories advanced energy storage at 11% advanced materials R amp D at about 25% and manufacturing processes r&d at about 64%
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Lauren Hall: The key investment items within the R amp D projects pillar include funding for topics in the recently released FYI 2020 multi topic for that is chemical manufacturing processes improvements in steel and R amp D for materials for her service conditions also funding for the upcoming
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Lauren Hall: Water and Wastewater fo is included in this pillar.
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Lauren Hall: These are congressionally directed items.
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Lauren Hall: The important analysis work that you heard from Joe earlier is also included in the r&d projects pillar.
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Lauren Hall: And is funded over the past two years. At about $7 million per year for analysis work.
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Lauren Hall: The Congressional direction is at 3.2 million for the r&d pillar and it makes up about 55% of the r&d projects program.
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Lauren Hall: Other congressionally directed topics in the demo photos include dynamic catalyst science artificial intelligence and machine learning efficient drying processes integrating carbon capture in manufacturing processes.
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Lauren Hall: Excuse me.
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Lauren Hall: CHP and district heating and developing a low cost polymer infiltration process for the fabrication of silicon carbide components carbide components.
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Lauren Hall: And one other item is congressionally directed. Is that a mo is investing 4 million in a $20 million era wide PFOA to partner with land grant university on graduate education programs with national labs to prepare the next generation of scientists and engineers.
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Lauren Hall: So the three categories that you see on the slide here. These are the main spend plan items under each of these pillars, but R amp D projects also includes funding for headquarter programs support.
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Lauren Hall: A small amount of funding for multi continuing multi year projects and then funding for SP IR s TT ER and the, the technology commercialization fund projects as well.
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Lauren Hall: Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: Under the consortia budget of 199 million in FYI 20 it's broken out into four categories Institute's hubs National Lab facilities, an early stage manufacturing R amp D consortia
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Lauren Hall: Institute's is funded at about 14% in is fully congressionally directed the hubs are funded at about 25% of the total and are also fully congressionally directed the National Lab facilities 23% congressionally directed. And then finally, the early stage manufacturing R amp D consortia
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Lauren Hall: Is about 38% of the consortium budget and in addition to continuing funding for national lab facilities hubs and Institute's
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Lauren Hall: Other key investment items under the early stage manufacturing consortia category includes the field validation r&d for for 30 million
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Lauren Hall: The work in plastics innovation which is about 25 million. The lab work in additive manufacturing for nano cellulosic feedstocks that's $20 million and then work in composites funding for SP IR s TT er projects. And of course, another piece of headquarter program support.
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Lauren Hall: So all in all the Congressional direction for consortia is 132 million or about 66% of the consortia pillar.
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Lauren Hall: Budget for 2020 and just a couple of other details on the hubs and Institute's the CME Institute's that are funded this year at 28 million
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Lauren Hall: The one existing
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Lauren Hall: remade Institute.
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Lauren Hall: Is funded at 14 and then the new cyber security CME Institute where selection was just announced a couple of weeks ago.
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Lauren Hall: Is also part of that 28 million
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Lauren Hall: The m the MDF and CF TF work is 25 million and that will support a bridge to develop early stage r&d partnerships related to additive manufacturing and carbon fiber materials. This also includes
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Lauren Hall: 4 million for additive manufacturing work on large wind blades that allow for rapid prototyping tooling fabrication and testing.
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Lauren Hall: The interview the Energy Innovation Hubs provides annual funding for the critical materials hub at 25 million and the National Alliance for water innovation. Now he
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Lauren Hall: was selected to lead the energy, water diesel hub recently and that is 25 million. And then finally about 5 million of congressional direction on lithium ion extraction will be folded into the critical materials field validation Rd fella. Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: So the tech partnerships budget of 45 million is broken out into three categories stem and workforce development at 27%
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Lauren Hall: Combined heat and power and district energy at 44% and technical assistance at 29% key investment items in the tech partnership pillar include funding for the industrial assessment centers the CHP taps and the pho topics addressing district heating and CHP
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Lauren Hall: The majority of the text tech partnerships pillar is congressionally directed. And just a quick breakdown on that congressional direction.
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Lauren Hall: 12 million went to seize 28 existing ice and then three new assessments are planned at wastewater treatment facilities.
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Lauren Hall: Another 12 million to provide ongoing support for the CHP technical assistance partnership activities at daily and this includes 5 million for taps and 7 million for related CHP activities.
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Lauren Hall: An additional 10 million will be going towards voluntary technical assistance initiatives that Valerie mentioned earlier as well to assist energy intensive manufacturing facilities.
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Lauren Hall: In addition to that, we have district eating topics in the MO photos.
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Lauren Hall: And we have $5 million for wastewater treatment technical assistance and part of that is is folded into the ice.
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Lauren Hall: In addition to this, we also have funding for program headquarters programs support and projects in the technologists in residence program.
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Lauren Hall: Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: So just a little bit about the
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Lauren Hall: budget request.
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Lauren Hall: That request rose slightly compared to the FYI 20 budget request of 81 million at the requested funding level and FYI 21 of 94.6 million
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Lauren Hall: A mo expects to continue work on reducing the energy intensity of the manufacturing process and invest in early stage r&d
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Lauren Hall: To continue to advance our competitive standing in energy efficient domestic manufacturing the budget request is made up of about 51% r&d projects 43% consortia and about 6% tech partnerships.
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Lauren Hall: Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: So this is a snapshot of the upcoming day two panels by topical area as a precursor to those discussions. I'll provide an overview of how a mo invested FYI 19 and FYI $20 appropriated funds in each of these topical areas. Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: So panel one topics include additive manufacturing composites and sustainable manufacturing and plastics innovation, the funding and panel one shows up as an increase in
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Lauren Hall: Investments have about $40 million as compared to
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Lauren Hall: This is mainly evident in the increases in composites. And in the area of sustainable manufacturing and plastics innovation. Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: The funding and panel to includes the categories of advanced materials critical materials energy storage and materials for harsh service conditions the funding and panel two shows about a $9 million dollar increase over
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Lauren Hall: In these topics and the most significant increase in FYI can be seen in the critical materials area and funding being invested in energy storage this year.
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Lauren Hall: Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: Funding and panel three includes categories of the energy, water nexus and water security process intensification and chemical manufacturing and roll to roll manufacturing
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Lauren Hall: The largest difference can be seen in the energy, water space in
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Lauren Hall: Which includes congressionally directed funds for the upcoming water and wastewater treatment for the wastewater treatment technical assistance work and of course the water de sel hub.
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Lauren Hall: Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: So panel forward topics include CHP power electronics and waste heat recovery and process heating
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Lauren Hall: The funding in panel for
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Lauren Hall: Is slightly less than in
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Lauren Hall: In this panel combination, but it shows an increase in process heating based on investments in drawing processes in steel.
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Lauren Hall: Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: Panel five includes cyber HTC for manufacturing and smart manufacturing the dollar investments remain about equal to F ly 19 investments in this panel.
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Lauren Hall: Cyber is in the fourth year of five years of funding for the Institute. That's 14 million a year, while the smart manufacturing category includes
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Lauren Hall: A topic in the FOA for artificial intelligence and machine learning and also a new project at Oakridge called digital factory.
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Lauren Hall: Next slide.
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Lauren Hall: So the final panel topic six includes technical partnerships, which is made up of better plans and field validation of ISO 50,001 ready
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Lauren Hall: The technical transfer mechanisms category which is comprised of SP IR STR TCF projects. That's the Technic the technology commercialization fund projects.
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Lauren Hall: And then workforce development includes the industrial assessment centers and the technologists in residence projects. One thing I wanted to point out about this panel is that
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Lauren Hall: We meant to include 13 million in the
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Lauren Hall: Category of trance of tech transfer mechanisms in the in the 19 pie chart, we wanted to include 13 million in the tech transfer category there which would also produce a green a dark green bar.
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Lauren Hall: In the the right graph there under tech transfer mechanisms which would show that 13 million next to the
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Lauren Hall: Bar for tech transfer. So I just wanted to make that one distinction there. Another item of note is that a mo invest in strategic analysis across the program at roughly 7 million a year and Fri 19 and 20
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Lauren Hall: Because this is invested across the program we we didn't include the analysis work in these categories and the they're not reflected in the panel breakouts for tomorrow's presentations.
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Lauren Hall: also wanted to mention that the headquarters program support costs are also an important part of the MO spend plan, but are not reflected in these panel breakouts.
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Lauren Hall: Also, and with that I will turn it over to Mike mckittrick to talk about the RD consortium model. Take it away, Mike.
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Mike McKittrick: Great, thanks. Lauren
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Mike McKittrick: So Lauren and others today have have talked a bit about r&d consortia and I'm the program manager of that program. So just wanted to give you a little perspective on what is a consortium y mo funds one and how we work with the consortium in our, in our program management role.
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Mike McKittrick: So with the through the budget discussion, Lord, talk about
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Mike McKittrick: MDF and Institute's and hubs and oh there's holes are various types of r&d consortia that we find, but really when we're thinking about this area is in manufacturing in general. But there's some technology areas where a portfolio of r&d projects aren't sufficient
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Mike McKittrick: Right, if we need to make a series of coordinated r&d investments tackle challenges across the supply chain like in critical materials or across a market sector like composites.
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Mike McKittrick: There's some areas where education and workforce is important to train the incumbent workforce, or the next generation on a new technology area.
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Mike McKittrick: And if there's real advantage. Where do we can play a catalyzing role on connecting the manufacturing ecosystem. These are some some key characteristics, where we can make a bigger impact with the consortia
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Mike McKittrick: So the figure on the right shows how we structure these is that we pulled together industry, government and academia in these this public private partnership.
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Mike McKittrick: So as we look to establish these we look. Think about a clear technology focus and hopefully the organizations that we're putting together have the ability to build the top put together a robust r&d portfolio.
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Mike McKittrick: We're looking for more than just a collection of R amp D projects. Hopefully these do help connect the pieces of the supply chain or the market sector to actually to help address issues.
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Mike McKittrick: And we want a strong membership from industry, academia and national labs. We want the group to be open the new members and new ideas and also hopefully they're using the D funding to catalyze the growth of the ecosystem.
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Mike McKittrick: So here the the 10 consortia that we fund in an ammo and you can Lauren talk about number these as well as Daniel and Valerie and others today. So you can see the the various technology areas that we fund I've listed the ammo funding amounts here.
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Mike McKittrick: There is a bit of a lag between when funds are appropriate versus execution. So you don't see a quite one to one match in terms of what Lauren just person had on the budget.
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Mike McKittrick: But it is important to note that that many of the technology areas we support through the r&d consortium program.
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Mike McKittrick: Tie directly to some of the key priorities for the government do we an era. So things like plastics innovation challenge is addressed by remade and bottle.
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Mike McKittrick: Cybersecurity is is dress through our newly selected a sign Manny Institute critical materials is obviously addressed through
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Mike McKittrick: CMI and water through and how we, as you've heard before it's born with all these consortia
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Mike McKittrick: We not only work with a growing ecosystem with our external stakeholders. We coordinate across era across the department and even with a with our government partners in terms of engaging with this these great groups that we pulled together.
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Mike McKittrick: So one of the proud of a little perspective on on how these consortia are organized and then in the next slide. I'll talk about how a mo works with them.
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Mike McKittrick: So we've heard about energy innovation hubs like critical materials Institute, and now we the institute the manufacturing USA Institute's we have six of those
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Mike McKittrick: funded through a demo and our lab lab lab lead consortium, like the MDF or bottle and all these have different models.
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Mike McKittrick: Different funding levels cost share and sustainability goals. What I've tried to capture. Here is a some of the broad aspects that are ubiquitous across these these models.
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Mike McKittrick: So generally, do we have an agreement with the lead organization this is through a cooperative agreement if we're dealing with the university or nonprofit partner and we use utilize the lab annual operating plan for the consortium that have lab leads
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Mike McKittrick: The members of the consortium in our consortium vary from about the smallest one has around 40 members. The largest has over 160 members and the members typically rain our universities companies, both small, medium and large
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Mike McKittrick: As well as nonprofit organization states these members sign an agreement with the lead organization and those agreements to be going through IP management plan non disclosure agreements, the US manufacturing plan how the consortium be governed
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Mike McKittrick: All the consortia they have a broad R amp D portfolio and stakeholders are typically engaged in technical roadmap and investment plans.
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Mike McKittrick: Of course, the R amp D is also influenced by daily priority areas the projects are typically competed through a mere based process, but ultimately you need to be a member of these organizations to participate in the R amp D.
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Mike McKittrick: One of the key aspects of what we do want to highlight is the co investment. So for the Institute's so power America.
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Mike McKittrick: Says me Rapid Eye acne and remade they have a kosher requirement at 50% so let's match of one to one of the federal investment.
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Mike McKittrick: Side Manny's will be 20% as they they get started the hubs, have a little different model as well. So on the Institute's side, we really looked for that for many of them, though a larger investment from the outside stakeholders.
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Mike McKittrick: Do want to point out that the while we're all here and talking about the this the ammo review the RD consortium team runs a separate peer review for each of the consortia
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Mike McKittrick: So this is typically a one and a half to two days of event where we'll have one specific review for each specific program.
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Mike McKittrick: Where we review the, the management operations as well as the r&d portfolio education and workforce. So all the aspects, so it's
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Mike McKittrick: Really a deep dive on these larger programs because it's very challenging to get an overview of all you know $14 million your program in the short time, we have at the the overview
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Mike McKittrick: If I just want to mention the sustainability, the manufacturing USA Institute's
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Mike McKittrick: Do have the expectation as their initiated that after the deal we cooperative agreement, which is a five years, they will be financially self sufficient.
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Mike McKittrick: So they will be able to have enough revenue to continue the the operations and headquarters cost of the Institute's we expect those technology areas will still be relevant and important for de na Mo, but we have not been appropriated additional funds for Institute operations.
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Mike McKittrick: So I just wanted to share some of the ways that the HMO interacts with the r&d consortium program. And it's a sometimes a challenging
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Mike McKittrick: Piece to understand these are roughly standalone organizations and may appear to have we've heard the comment that they seem to run themselves.
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Mike McKittrick: BUT AMOS substantially involved throughout the the consortia operation. So on the management side we have proved that the key operational plans personnel those IP management plans was talking about how how members have accessed IP, as well as how IPS distributed throughout the
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Mike McKittrick: r&d project team and other members and we also approve the sustainability plans we have regular meetings with the consortium leadership. So that's a both at the end of the executive level discussions as well as the technical leadership.
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Mike McKittrick: The mo team also worked with consortia negotiate.
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Mike McKittrick: And D we ultimately proves the statement of project of objective and budgets for each budget period, including go don't go nowhere to go in, no go decisions is you can think about the size of these organizations.
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Mike McKittrick: Especially with the programs that have, you know, RD portfolios of 30 projects. The solos and budgets can great quite intense and quite complicated.
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Mike McKittrick: On the on the portfolio side Mo is is heavily involved in those aspects as well. We
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Mike McKittrick: Provide content as well as approved though request for proposals for product calls
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Mike McKittrick: Review the project selections and approve those and work with the institute and and consortia teams and the project negotiations, as well as developing the project soco and budgets and ultimately also participate in the project management for all those
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Mike McKittrick: r&d projects funded by the Institute's or consortium. And as I mentioned, we're heavily involved in the technical leadership as well.
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Mike McKittrick: As it's an all the institute governance boards and we're also responsible for appointing any other federal representatives that are allowed us in our terms and conditions.
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Mike McKittrick: We also perform a quarterly assessment of each Institute. So each consortia submits the MO a quarterly report and our team.
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Mike McKittrick: reviews that and their progress towards their milestones and deliverables, as well as looking at their budget and spending and provides them a regular assessment.
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Mike McKittrick: And I mentioned before, the, the annual peer review for each of the consortium also occurs in the coming weeks, we'll be starting a number of those for the Deaf like 20 cycle.
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Mike McKittrick: In addition to the substantial boss involvement. We're also have our normal federal duties in terms of the word monitoring monitoring. So the cooperative agreement.
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Mike McKittrick: Monitoring the the program to make sure they're following the terms and conditions and all the regulations.
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Mike McKittrick: Associated with the quarter agreement, as well as processing any modifications. These are fairly large agreements and whenever we add projects or adjust budgets or go no go decisions or milestones.
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Mike McKittrick: They require significant modifications. We also work a lot and coordinating with the ERA contracting legal and NEPA staff.
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Mike McKittrick: As we're working through these agreements and and also making sure we get the, the other business side.
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Mike McKittrick: Reviewing invoices and approval of those invoices and and for these large organizations that they have a lot of costs of a lot of sub subcontracts so that can get quite a, quite time consuming and can be quite an effort
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Mike McKittrick: So finally, just did want to point out the, the team that takes on the, the management role here in an MO of all these programs you hear about, you know, a lot of their names.
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Mike McKittrick: But this this group here and I don't have the time to name them all, are the technology managers, the technical projects officers.
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Mike McKittrick: The support staff and contractors and the fellows that really dig in and ensure that that these programs are meeting a moes mission and do a mission and hopefully a driving for success.
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Mike McKittrick: So with that,
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Mike McKittrick: Wrap up the discussion of the RD consortium model and turn it back over to Joe Crespo.
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Cresko: Okay thanks Mike.
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Cresko: So as Stacy is getting the slide deck up, I'll just start. We've got about 15 minutes before
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Cresko: The next break, I believe the next
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Cresko: Q AMP a session, I believe that. That's right. Maybe I've got that wrong, but what I wanted to do here is
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Cresko: To a quick kind of contextual discussion about sort of mechanisms for fostering innovation. There had been a lot of questions about
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Cresko: In the past about, you know, where and how does a mo sort of think about how to make investments, the industrial the manufacturing space in the budget is
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Cresko: Lauren outline really well is is
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Cresko: Well, detailed and when you think about the large budget as Valerie mentioned it's larger than we've had in the past, we had a 95 million. And if you think about the fact that we have $1 billion into play and he can play in any given year, and projects work undertaken.
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Cresko: It's a significant amount of money yet, if you think about spreading that across the entire industrial sector and making an impact.
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Cresko: It can you can become thin, very quickly. So how do we focus on this idea of making the greatest impact that we can, and that includes really thinking about innovation and I wanted to kind of draw folks attention to a report which probably many if not most of
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Cresko: The attendees today are familiar with this is a report that came out in 2007 in 2005 at a joint meeting of the National Academies of Science and Engineering
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Cresko: Members really raise the alarm that the state of about the state of technology development in, you know, in the United States.
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Cresko: And they expressed a concern of the weakening of science and technology that it would degrade economic conditions and ultimately erode the ability of
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Cresko: US citizens to compete for high quality jobs in an increasingly competitive international marketplace. So, two years after that meeting a
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Cresko: impactful study came out rising above the Gathering Storm. It was written by a highly distinguished committee, led by of the at the time, Lockheed Martin CEO Norm Augustine, they estimated that half of the GDP at the time.
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Cresko: Had come was a result of research performed in the previous 25 to 50 years you can really begin to think about that that impact of research and the downstream economic impacts that come from it.
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Cresko: They identified that manufacturing is a national imperative and since then the federal government has undertaken a range of activities to accelerate innovation and a shore up manufacturing competitiveness is no surprise that in 2007
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Cresko: The, the America compete, compete act with was authorized reauthorized in 2010 and underneath the National Science and Technology Committee.
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Cresko: They are responsible for planning coordinating federal programs and activities in advanced advanced manufacturing Rd
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Cresko: They've developed an updated a quadrennial national strategic plan for advanced manufacturing through their Subcommittee on advanced manufacturing
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Cresko: And it's the primary forum to share information coordination and consensus building among participating agencies and federal policy programs and budget.
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Cresko: For advanced manufacturing and in the period of 2010 to 2016 the President's Council will have the geysers in science and technology P cast issued a series of reports, I'm driving home, the importance of
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Cresko: Advanced Manufacturing and making recommendations on how to proceed. Most recently, and with this current administration, the strategic plan.
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Cresko: For advanced manufacturing developed by that Subcommittee on advanced manufacturing which followed extensive public outreach is based on an a vision of American leadership.
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Cresko: In advanced manufacturing across industrial sectors, this vision is to be achieved by developing and transitioning new manufacturing technologies to market.
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Cresko: education, training and connecting the manufacturing workforce and expanding capabilities of the domestic manufacturing supply chain. So right from the, you know, from the
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Cresko: The Nexus I thinking about this rising above the gathering storm, the idea and pushing on innovation is is quite important. And I wanted to kind of frame this discussion and fostering innovation with that as a starting point.
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Cresko: So we can think a bit about where ammo participates in this sort of technology readiness level or technology maturity space with its investments and folks who are familiar with our program have probably seen this diagram in the past where we've talked a bit about of how am those
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Cresko: Programs and sub programs sort of work and operate within that sort of gap that sort of missing middle that space where
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Cresko: One of the, you know, a couple of the consortium that we have within a mo include do we energy innovation hubs in critical materials and water and that research and development ranges from sort of that lower TRS level.
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Cresko: In through this sort of missing middle and, by extension, thinking about uptake of state of the art technologies.
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Cresko: We all know that state of the art technologies that exist today that maybe not only technically
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Cresko: But I'm commercially affordable still aren't taken up, what are those barriers and challenges. And so if we think about the role that a mo plays it really is indeed bridging that gap across the technology maturity.
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Cresko: Range so
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Cresko: By catalyzing manufacturing innovation, our investments in a mo.
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Cresko: We focus on helping drive us manufacturing competitiveness jobs.
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Cresko: Energy relevant advanced manufacturing capabilities, the flexibility of energy systems and you heard a bit about our energy conversion and storage investments, for example, bringing together a range of stakeholders that can be manufacturers, not for profit entities.
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Cresko: Other institutions of higher education to collaborate, identify the challenges and try to develop pathways and roadmaps to
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Cresko: meet those challenges and ultimately we want to bridge the gap that gap from discovery to manufacturing and accelerate innovations into the marketplace. One of the big roles of government federal investing is to drive that acceleration of the uptake of those technologies so
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Cresko: I think it's another useful to take a bit of another look at the development of technology space, not only thinking about the technology readiness level or technology maturities
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Cresko: The maturity of technologies, but also at manufacturing scale.
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Cresko: And what we can identify through this. There's a number of ways to look at a diagram like this. And one of the most useful ways, I think it is to take a look at this.
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Cresko: Is to realize that there are low technology maturity low T RL challenges and opportunities that exist at all manufacturing scales certainly
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Cresko: In the last diagram you can think about making investments and this sort of process of moving technologies forward through technology readiness level sort of scale.
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Cresko: But beyond that, we can really begin to think about how and where we make investments, not only starting, for example, at low technology.
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Cresko: readiness levels or low manufacturing scales, but low TRS opportunities that exist at all scales and this I think becomes a really important lens in which to look at our
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Cresko: Opportunities, what becomes more of a kind of a driving force is thinking about, given the long time frames it takes to get technologies in many cases developed
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Cresko: A prototype out there into the marketplace, how do we reduce those those timescales and accelerate that and this requires us to really focus and think about innovation as the way to do that. So you heard a lot from Valerie to Lauren to Mike about the investments that we make.
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Cresko: Lauren did a great job outlining of the investments that are made in projects and consortia and these include and woven through there are
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Cresko: The leveraging of existing assets that we have across our national lab complex those resources and I thought it would be useful to just quickly. Today I'm identify a few of these.
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Cresko: topics that are interest with respect to innovation and that you will hear some more about tomorrow as we get into more details from the technology managers within, within a mo. Now Mike talked a bit about
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Cresko: You know the consortium model and from an innovation perspective, there's no it's no surprise and should be no surprise that the word innovation is firmly entrenched in the titles of these both the hubs and and the Institute's and we tend to think about those energy to patient hubs.
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Cresko: Starting at least with approaches that are a bit more fundamental perhaps at below technology readiness level but
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Cresko: We can't think about those in isolation and bridging that gap and moving and accelerating technologies forward is is part of that role of a mo. We think about all of our work in
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Cresko: A broader portfolio perspective, not only do we have investments, for example in critical materials.
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Cresko: In the critical materials hub. But we've also, as mentioned, have a follow up going out on critical materials. And when we think a bit more about some of the modes of operation of the Institute's as Mike referred talk to
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Cresko: These are really bringing in some of the other components that can help drive innovation. It's really developing the thinking about the people and the innovation.
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Cresko: That is driven by the involvement and Education and Development of the workforce.
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Cresko: So a couple things I'll mention about how and where we have national lab resources that help accelerate this innovation.
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Cresko: You've heard some of these and you'll hear more tomorrow about our high performance computing for manufacturing program.
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Cresko: The technologists in residence program Technology Commercialization Fund and the lab embedded entrepreneurship program. I'm going to focus in on my last few slides at to speak to
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Cresko: The lab embedded entrepreneurship program, which I think is one really interesting example of where we are not only leveraging
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Valri Lightner: Innovation.
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Cresko: But we're innovating and thinking about innovation.
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Valri Lightner: Across technologies marketplace.
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Cresko: And
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Cresko: The workforce and so the lab embedded entrepreneurship program is a competitive process wherein we recruit the best energy technology innovators out there through a
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Cresko: Through an annual competitive process we leverage expert mentorship and the world class facilities at our national labs that this provides a two year funding.
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Cresko: To fellows that are selected for the program as well as a cooperative research and development agreement to help provide the funds so that they can access
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Cresko: People in equipment at the labs and ultimately to position people to get their technology into that marketplace.
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Cresko: The goal is to empower innovators to mature that technology, give them a runway to get that technology out out into the marketplace for hard technologies.
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Cresko: energy technologies advanced manufacturing technologies. This is a big challenge and difficult challenge. So we have
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Cresko: These lab embedded entrepreneurship programs at three locations that cyclotron road cyclotron voted LPL chain reaction innovations at Argonne and innovation crossroads at Oak Ridge National Labs and the impact that has been going on so far that we see a few
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Cresko: early success points we, you know, certainly aren't far enough into the program to begin to
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Cresko: Thoroughly categorized or evaluate those impacts. But since
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Cresko: These nodes have been awarded more than $32 million 89 fellows over 65 projects will be upping those soon as the next class of cohorts are actually being spun into the labs, even as we speak.
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Cresko: national recognition of Forbes 30 under 30 we've had a number of innovators name to that list this program fulfills an unmet need
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Cresko: It really ultimately allows us to develop new partnerships and we have pursued funding and engagement from not only other era offices, but other
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Cresko: Agencies across the US government. So thinking about energy storage is a big investment area that we're thinking of
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Cresko: We can actually look at the number of companies that are working on in this space innovators that have put forward interesting ideas on this page you're seeing a list of
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Cresko: Innovators that from starting in 2017 at chain reaction innovation for Atlas Lexi on Byzantine joltin porous UNIX and active energy systems.
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Cresko: At innovation crossroads, as well as a handful of companies at cyclotron road step beyond feasible Hubert noon and Torah energies and I'll end with on this kind of topic of thinking about innovation. What are the future innovation needs for manufacturing
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Cresko: Diana mentioned some of the conversations we've had with some of the National Labs and
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Cresko: There's really a range of opportunities that we see if we begin to think about how we realize, especially now.
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Cresko: The need for highly flexible resilient manufacturing operation systems and facilities, the need to develop reverse dynamic and adaptable supply chains.
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Cresko: The utilization of information technologies and ultimately building new capabilities and building blocks capabilities. So these are a few examples that we can think of that really need innovation to drive them forward and with that all see back to Stacey.
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Bob Gemmer: Thank you Joe.
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Cresko: For Bob
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Bob Gemmer: Well, either way.
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Bob Gemmer: All right, that was a pretty intense.
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Bob Gemmer: Nominally half day, but it was clearly more than that of information. I just now.
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Bob Gemmer: The review team.
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Bob Gemmer: And I'm going to turn it over to Nancy potato lead and calling on people.
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Nancy Margolis: Ray, thank you, Bob. And I'd like to start off by thanking all of the am a leadership, who took the time and obviously great effort to put together these presentations for us today.
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Nancy Margolis: In particular, we'd like to thank you for incorporating many of the panels recommendations from last year. It's very much appreciated that you paid attention to that. And you did incorporate a lot of the things that the panel asked for.
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Nancy Margolis: So during this Q AMP a session, we're going to limit questions initially to just the reviewers. Now all of the reviewers will be able to unmute themselves.
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Nancy Margolis: To ask questions. And if we have time, leftover before five o'clock I believe mo will allow questions from the general audience using the chat function.
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Nancy Margolis: So, Stacy is going to display the PowerPoint presentations that the leadership put up so that while we go through the Q AMP. A if some of the reviewers if they want to refer to a slide that was in a presentation.
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Nancy Margolis: It, they should be able to do that. So, and I would think reviewers. If you would like to put your cameras on Start your video that would be appropriate at this time.
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Nancy Margolis: So we're going to start out with the first presentation, which was the Valerie liners overview of a demo or she talked about mission, vision.
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Nancy Margolis: Some of the major thrust of the program, some success stories and I'm going to ask reviewer Jim lions if he would like to start us off with questions he has for Valerie.
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James Lyons: Sure. This is a general question.
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James Lyons: About battery manufacturing and and the critical materials involved.
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James Lyons: We don't have much in the way of battery manufacturing in the US TODAY WE DON'T HAVE mines for those raw materials, how do we propose to go about making this happen in the US.
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Valri Lightner: Yeah, so
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Valri Lightner: We talked about, like, one of the things that we have is to work on separations and processing and we have funding opportunities for that.
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Valri Lightner: Specifically for the battery manufacturing. I mean, one of the
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Valri Lightner: Things that the vehicle technologies and program is investigating our materials that don't route potential technologies that don't rely on some of the cobalt and things that are
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Valri Lightner: That the sources are limited for so it would be to try to
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Valri Lightner: To find technologies that meet the performance requirement that we aren't dependent on foreign sources of materials for so that for sure is, is one of the pathways and then trying to
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Valri Lightner: Find ways to use the materials that we do have, you know, possibly getting some of the lithium maybe from
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Valri Lightner: From I'm losing, losing the term for whatever reason, but
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Valri Lightner: From, like, geothermal type or
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Valri Lightner: You know, other things like this where we may be able to find ways to
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Valri Lightner: Really
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James Lyons: You know, without some government help you know I can't see manufacturing lines battery is getting ginned up you know it's entirely dominated by East Asian countries, so
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James Lyons: You know, I understand that lithium separation and that's good stuff to do. But, you know, fundamentally, you know, getting manufacturing kicked off in the US, just like semiconductors is very difficult process at this point, right, unless somebody
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Yeah.
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Valri Lightner: When we met with the industry in a roundtable on the workshop earlier this year.
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Valri Lightner: What they said is, if demand was here than the manufacturing facilities would be built. But what they did identify needing assistance is is in scaling. Some of the manufacturing technologies. And so that was the
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Valri Lightner: Purpose of the lab call that we issued about a week ago is to use the capabilities within the national labs to help companies scale.
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Valri Lightner: New battery manufacturing technologies.
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James Lyons: Okay.
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Nancy Margolis: John. Whoa. Do you have any questions for Valerie.
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John Wall: I do, I think, for starters, just one comment Valerie is that I'm still looking for that overarching structure.
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John Wall: Our framework for that will allow you to sort of have a consistent collection of projects that you can hang on that. So there's still there's some structures that come along, you've got the MO girls you've got
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John Wall: The six technical areas that look good but
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John Wall: They aren't being used consistently. So just, just a comment to encourage you to keep
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John Wall: Working that direction, because I think it would be helpful internally and certainly as you're communicating to others. So that as we go through all these presentations. So, for example, tomorrow. We've got six
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Valri Lightner: Collections of projects as I'm sitting here, I have no idea.
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John Wall: I mean I can sort of make up how a number of them.
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John Wall: Fit together but there seems to be one or two nine secretaries and each one of the list. So having that structure would be good. I'm looking back at your budget chart the bipartisan support for a memo that has been growing over time. And then I noticed that the fiscal year 21
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John Wall: Request is down 95 million box compared to fiscal year 20 so down to 300 million from 395 and I'm kind of curious about what why
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Valri Lightner: Actually john it's the other way around the request. This is 94 million. So it's down by 300 million and that system with this.
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Valri Lightner: Sorry.
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John Wall: I'm from the administration. Right.
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Valri Lightner: Yeah, the administration's request have been about 30% of what we've been appropriated consistently under this administration.
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John Wall: Okay, good. I was reading on said exactly where it's coming from at least got 30% some of the others didn't get that much.
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Valri Lightner: Yeah, and I mean to say, but for you to address your initial comment on I think Joe. Joe and I and Diana talk about that as maybe the missing middle, middle are our multi year plan talks about kind of
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Valri Lightner: High level Archer overarching goals and we dig down into those 20 plus different technology areas and we're kind of missing that middle
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Valri Lightner: And one thing that we have have committed to OMB to do is to to propose a
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Valri Lightner: A technology based request because our request is currently by implementation area r&d projects Rd consortia and technical assistance and to to switch that over to a
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Valri Lightner: Technology based one which I think would would give us that framework that you're talking about. So it's something that we're working on, for they would be for the fiscal year 22 requests.
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Valri Lightner: So,
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John Wall: We are
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Valri Lightner: We are having conversations but yeah
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you, Brian, you have any comments or questions for Valerie.
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Paul Bryan: Okay. Am I successfully unmuted now.
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Paul Bryan: You are. Okay. Last time it didn't work. But that was my fault. Yeah. I have several but I'll try to work the top priority first
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Paul Bryan: In your talk and I think it may be to have the others. People talk that red retrospective looks at the value of previous programs.
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Paul Bryan: And my first involvement with the do we actually it was with the predecessor of a mo, which was oh it the Office of Industrial Technology
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Paul Bryan: And they have their industries of the future program and this addressed all of the major energy consumers.
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Paul Bryan: Consuming industries in the United States, except I think for internal political reasons, not refining, but all the other major energy consumers. I was wondering if a retrospective had ever been done on that.
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Paul Bryan: You know, what was the value of all those workshops we did and all that analysis. And also, you know, Is there, is there anything we could mine from those days gone by and avoid reinventing the wheel today.
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Paul Bryan: Yes, petroleum refining was
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Valri Lightner: Included. That was one of our industries of the future. Back then, I was, that was my first
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Valri Lightner: Job at the way as well. I can 94 really I missed that for some reason.
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Valri Lightner: Yeah, yeah. But in addition to industries of the future. We also had to endure industries in the future cross cut
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Valri Lightner: And so when when we're looking back at the retrospective analysis, it actually categorizes the projects in those ways both by the industries that we were focused on or the potential cross cutting area and we're looking to kind of like
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Valri Lightner: Merge that and map that with some of the technology areas that we have nails so that you can sort the projects that we funded a task by different
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Valri Lightner: In different ways to kind of group them and all its kind of matrix XML. So in terms of like, you know what we've done in
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Valri Lightner: Evaluating I'm looking at that retrospective is really on a project by project basis.
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Valri Lightner: You know, in terms of an evaluation of sort of the portfolio in a particular area. I mean, I think one of the things that we struggle with is that, you know, our work. I like to think of it as really accelerating technology development and maybe not.
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Valri Lightner: Doing things that wouldn't be done. We're at not for government support i think i think it. I think for the most part we're accelerating things that would be done.
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Valri Lightner: So the contribution of the AM funding. This is something we really struggle with. And Joe, I don't know if you, you want to say more about it, but
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Valri Lightner: We really struggle at being able to a portion. You know what percentage of that should a mo take credit for because we are also working in partnership with industry and
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Valri Lightner: And then, how much do they take credit for it. It's a bit of a challenge, but it up until 2010 we used to put out an annual report that that did an assessment of our portfolio and the impact that ammo funding had made
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Valri Lightner: Yeah.
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Cresko: This is Joel just add to that as well. You know, there's
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Cresko: That that
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Cresko: In those investments. Yes. What you know their era and in also has an office of evaluation and doing a true evaluation.
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Cresko: And doing it rigorously takes time. You know, there is a cost associated with it. Um, some of the questions. One might ask, are you know how much of the program does one sort of doing an evaluation on
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Cresko: But yet you know we we do have that sort of technology. Tracking Database. In addition to that, there's other areas of data and information that can be mined that can give an indication of like the impact that the program has made. And during that industries of the future time
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Cresko: That and then and then subsequent to that.
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Cresko: Not only with our end, but doing very in depth thorough
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Cresko: Detailed assessments for some of the large energy intensive industries was done that helped also drive on improvements. And so some of that data, you know, and those
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Cresko: From those very intensive and thorough assessments that are other places where information can can can be mind but you know
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Cresko: We we've also been recently looking and doing some work on
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Cresko: Patent analysis studies to kind of get a better sense for kind of where our investments have gone to sort of drive that innovation part. So I think on the one hand, you can think about
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Cresko: The energy impacts. Alternatively, how far have our investments gone to help driving innovation and there's a lot of activity there and you know that some of that work is underway. We're not probably prepared.
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Cresko: To to talk about it yet, but in the future we can kind of bring that bring that forward and give a little bit more information about some of the other impacts of our of our program.
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Nancy Margolis: Great. Thank you, Paul. I'm gonna get let Roku Gupta asked a question, then if you have additional questions. Maybe we can get back to the rivalry or do you have any questions.
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No worries.
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Raghubir Gupta: Can you hear me.
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Raghubir Gupta: Can you hear me okay. Okay, good.
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Raghubir Gupta: Yeah, so really
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Raghubir Gupta: Great presentation and just reflecting in today's conditions in us on the energy sector, the energy prices are quite low, specifically for natural gas.
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Raghubir Gupta: So for the industry, whom we work very closely, their main focus is not to worry about the energy costs, but the topics and the carbon footprint reduction.
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Raghubir Gupta: For most of the newer manufacturing operations or even making changes to the existing operations. What are you planning or thinking in the air, more to basically face this new reality where the
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Raghubir Gupta: Item guys will remain cheap, but the, the, the focus is going to be on CAPEX and reducing the carbon footprint of the industry industrial manufacturing. I didn't hear anything from your presentation on that.
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Valri Lightner: Yeah, I mean, there are in Daniel kind of touched on this a little bit. Our
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Valri Lightner: You know, our focus is on efficiency, energy efficiency within, within the industrial sector and with that comes along.
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Valri Lightner: Some environmental benefits as well. But those are not not currently the focus of the program. But having said that, there are some opportunities.
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Valri Lightner: You know, within the the industrial sector things that we have worked on, you know, like the lower thermal budget kinds of technologies where you're using neither microwaves or or lasers to to either for drying or to make
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Valri Lightner: To drive manufacturing processes catalyzed and that kind of thing.
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Valri Lightner: And
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Valri Lightner: I know, I know there's a handful of other things that in addition to, you know, the
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Valri Lightner: Productivity and the efficiency improvement also has an added carbon benefits that are part of our portfolio as well. It's currently not a, not a direct focus
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Valri Lightner: Thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Okay. Thank you Sharon Nolan
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Nancy Margolis: You have any comments or questions.
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Sharon Nolen: Yes, have Valerie.
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Sharon Nolen: Had a question for you about the technical assistance program. So you said it's growing. And that's great to hear. But I just wanted to ask, What's your strategy for growing and adding companies to that program.
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Sharon Nolen: While you make sure you maintain the
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Sharon Nolen: Quality of the assistant to provide and that is provided at a meaningful level.
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Valri Lightner: That's a, that's a great question. So I mean, you're probably aware that we've been without a technical assistant supervisor for almost a year now.
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Valri Lightner: And that's one of the five positions in negotiation. So I'm, I'm, I'm really, you know, looking forward to having, having someone that can really focus on leading that team. And one of the things the leadership team, talk to the candidate for that position about is
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Valri Lightner: You know, wanting to bring some fresh ideas and some fresh perspective into the program about things that we could be doing to
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Valri Lightner: That that is that are useful to manufacturers and that that would that would have make manufacturers be interested in participating in the program and joining the program so so so that's one thing that I'm looking forward to is that leadership and those those ideas and
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Valri Lightner: You know, also in the space around combined heat and power. We've continued to get quite a bit of
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Valri Lightner: Of congressional direction to continue work and the combined heat and power space. And that's another area that I really think we need some fresh ideas and and you know and had a paddle we
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Valri Lightner: You know, how do we make the best use of our money to be working on things that would be interesting to industry for them to uptake.
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Valri Lightner: Okay.
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Sharon Nolen: Thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you, Steve. I
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Valri Lightner: Appreciate any of your ideas, too. I mean, you know, I know you've been a strong partner in that program.
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Nancy Margolis: Steve Shimano
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Steve Sciamanna: Valerie.
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Steve Sciamanna: First of all, thank you. I saw a lot of the stuff that we talked about last year and you guys have incorporated and so that's that's really good to see. I did have a question on. So first of all, how long is the MO been in business.
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Valri Lightner: I think we've been around since about 77
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Steve Sciamanna: Okay, long time. So,
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Steve Sciamanna: The companies that you highlighted is your successes. How did you pick those
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Steve Sciamanna: Why did you pick those
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Valri Lightner: The ones that I highlighted are the ones that we are that are closer to being able to have an offering to a commercial partner. And so I wanted to highlight some of those. I mean, most recently, our portfolio has been more focused on early stage, research and development.
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Valri Lightner: So you know it's it's technologies that are maybe a little bit more work following a mo investment in order to get them ready for industry uptake. But those are the ones that I tried to highlight. Okay, so when you call these
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Steve Sciamanna: So I looked into
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Steve Sciamanna: There was two of these.
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Steve Sciamanna: The surf tech one
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Steve Sciamanna: You know, there was a coding for skis and
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Valri Lightner: And I guess they have their journal journal bearing is what we developed this for for coders okay but
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Steve Sciamanna: You know, I looked on the other. Dun and Bradstreet, they only have two employees. So I mean, these are. I was thinking that these are like bigger things but and the other one that the
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Steve Sciamanna: Flash deal works. Now that looks like it's a publicly traded
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Steve Sciamanna: Company. But has this
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Steve Sciamanna: Technology been actually commercialize it looks like a licensing play now.
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Valri Lightner: It's not been commercialized. And so that's that's what we're looking to do is to help through the validation effort for for for to validate the
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Valri Lightner: The production at scale. It's been done at a you know a lab sort of a pilot scale.
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Valri Lightner: Where enough material has been made that partners can test the material for use and application, but it hasn't been made on you know that continuous to prove the feasibility. That's what the validation effort is to do. Okay.
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Valri Lightner: So,
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Steve Sciamanna: So this is up to my
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Steve Sciamanna: Question and maybe this is more of Joe kind of touched on this as well, is that how much of the MO investment, you know, has ended up in commercialized outcomes. And maybe that's a hard question to answer. You know, back to 1977 but
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Steve Sciamanna: You know, when I look at portfolios and again I deal with, you know, VC people, and I look at you know how much investment versus how much came back if you had to, you know, talk to your shareholders or the
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Steve Sciamanna: What's, what is your sentence here on on outcome.
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Valri Lightner: Yeah. So again, I mean, I think that
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Valri Lightner: We, we do have, like, what we're tracking our technologies that have gotten to the point of being able to have a commercial offering near ready. A lot of our investments are earlier on the mat and require additional investment from industry.
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Valri Lightner: You know I I opened it up to Joe to give his insight as well. But I know when we were looking at this, at one time, I mean,
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Valri Lightner: You know if even 25% of our investments were successful and then commercialize that that would be high.
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Valri Lightner: Yeah, that would be great because yeah because of because of the nature of you know that the kind of research and development that we do. Okay. But there there is stuff.
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Steve Sciamanna: That you can point
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Steve Sciamanna: The mo can point to back since 1977 that that stuff did a mo.
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Steve Sciamanna: Mo funded saw the light of commercial day
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Cresko: Yeah, I'll just add quickly, I think.
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There's more than 400
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Cresko: Projects technologies that have been invested in that have become commercialized.
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Steve Sciamanna: Okay, you should say that
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Yeah.
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Cresko: I mean that data that data exists and
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Cresko: I mentioned it briefly, but about the idea of in my presentation about kind of developing a more of a database and you heard a little bit where
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Cresko: One of the challenges that we have with that the idea of a more robust database because it is like multiple four decades worth of information right and content.
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Cresko: How do you sort of search on get. First of all, get that some of that legacy information, pull it together. Get it into a database and also associated with for example keywords.
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Cresko: Because it might be the steel industry, but it might be process heating it might, you know, and so we want to do this really well so that if we have have an interest in finding out about
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Cresko: Some subset of the investments that has had an impact, you know, in a particular area that we can do that. But yes, you're right. Um, we, we have
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Cresko: A pretty long history. And I would say other era office is over time have followed the model that we did with
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Cresko: Technology tracking, but I think that going back to it and predecessors, even. It was really the office that has done that on you know really continuously for a long period of time. So there's a pretty good database of those already technology investments.
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Steve Sciamanna: Okay. Thanks. Sure.
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Steve Sciamanna: Okay, Nancy, back to you.
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Nancy Margolis: Okay, thank you. Um, what I'm going to do is move on to the Diana's presentation on a more strategic approach and john wall. I'm going to let you start off with any questions.
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John Wall: Okay, thanks. Hey, I see.
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John Wall: This is probably fall somewhere between Diana and Lauren, but I'm very curious about how strategy connects up with the budget because you know her Lauren furring to
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John Wall: Congressional direction for a number of the things that are in the budget and you're working on strategy. I'm reminded, a little bit of the old
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John Wall: Poster of the boss. That said, when I want your opinion. I'll give it to you.
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John Wall: How much of this is coming to you from
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John Wall: congressionally directed and how much is are you using strategy to the strike the balance cross investments.
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Diana Bauer: Yeah, so thank you for that question because I think it gets at sort of a dynamic that we have with Congress. At this time, you know, I think I forget who asked the question about the difference between the the the
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Diana Bauer: Administration budget request and what comes from Congress. It's quite it's quite dramatic and
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Diana Bauer: There's been a history of congress pretty well specifying what what's in you know what they want us to invest in and and so then that gets us
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Diana Bauer: Well, as I mentioned, I've been in the office for just a year, but I think some of the dynamic is that when Congress is telling us what to do, then we kind of lose our muscle.
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Diana Bauer: In terms of thinking about what priorities could or should be for the nation. And so part of what we're doing. As part of this.
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Diana Bauer: Strategy approach is also talking to our congressional appropriators about the way we're thinking you know about priorities.
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Diana Bauer: To so that they can feel a little bit more comfortable with giving us less direction, etc. Um, I think it's a, it's a, it's a dance and it's a dynamic that you know is, is still playing out. But yes, I think.
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Diana Bauer: It's a I think I think having a good
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Diana Bauer: clear idea of where we're going, will help with
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Diana Bauer: having fewer people tell us where to go.
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John Wall: Yes, the appropriation staff will be working with you to understand what the opportunities.
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John Wall: Are that specific they align well with where you think we ought to go
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Diana Bauer: Right. And I do think you know i think i think that we also have
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Diana Bauer: Political bosses that changed over time as well. And so some of the priority shift. And so I think it behooves the office to be able to be responsive, yet also have a long view about what the nation needs for its manufacturing enterprise. And so I think
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Diana Bauer: Engaging kind of in all directions on that in a way that is strategic i think is, is important, valuable. Yeah.
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Thanks.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you, Paul. Brian, do you have some questions or comments for Diana.
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Paul Bryan: Yeah, first of all, I definitely sympathize as Valerie and Melissa will no doubt remember from when I was at BETO we also got lots of help, especially from the Senate in deciding how to spend our money and that wasn't always as collaborative in fact based a result as we might have hoped.
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Paul Bryan: But I have two things that are that are somewhat related. So I'll lump them together.
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Paul Bryan: Is there a conscious effort across a mo to think about how its funding is maintaining the right balance of key capabilities.
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Paul Bryan: Especially in the national labs where of course the dia WE IS IS THE BIG funder, and that's the biggest source. So are we are we putting the right amount of money.
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Paul Bryan: Into all the key things to maintain those capabilities and I know this leads to lots of pain and and wailing and gnashing of teeth. But are we cutting back on capabilities that are no longer
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Paul Bryan: As critical and then the related thing is you talked about the the listening sessions with the labs and I have been part of those that I think those are great.
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Paul Bryan: What I wondering though, is do you do the same kinds of listening sessions with industry, I think, in some cases, the very people that you bring in for peer reviews or merit reviews, if you added an hour to to the schedule would also be a good group to get an industrial viewpoint. Thanks.
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Paul Bryan: Right.
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Diana Bauer: So let me answer your second question first. I mean in terms of industrial input.
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Diana Bauer: We have a number of as I mentioned what used to be. We used to envision them as workshops, but we're having them as webinars. We also have requests for information. And so we're seeking input.
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Diana Bauer: From industry using those, those, those, those methods those approaches. You know, I think in terms of national laboratory capabilities we we fund.
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Diana Bauer: That are sort of dedicated lab call funding is is quite limited. Actually, and most of our funding goes out through competitive solicitations for which
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Diana Bauer: National Labs.
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Diana Bauer: academia and industry are all you know eligible kind of in different combinations and different solicitations so I think we haven't really
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Diana Bauer: I mean, at least you know I again I've only been here a short amount of time, but
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Diana Bauer: Recently we haven't systematically applied ourselves to thinking about national laboratory capabilities until i think i think that the National Laboratory and listening sections were kind of part of
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Diana Bauer: That process. So, so it's, I would say it's a it's a work a work in process work in progress.
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Diana Bauer: Does that answer your question.
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Paul Bryan: Yes, thank you.
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Paul Bryan: Thank you, Paul.
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Nancy Margolis: And Diana rather beer you have questions or comments.
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Raghubir Gupta: Yeah. So Donna very good insights into your strategy process. One thing I did not hear from you is I guess you do a pretty good job of coordinating through era offices like Michael technology and hydrogen fuel cells.
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Raghubir Gupta: Do you also work with the fossil and our party and obvious of electricity.
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Raghubir Gupta: They will also have a lot of money for they can really use your expertise in some of the technologies for example in carbon capture or things they are doing.
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Raghubir Gupta: How do you really facilitate to bring those technology which are released to a point where manufacturing becomes a critical element on commercialization of those technologies.
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Diana Bauer: Yeah, I mean we we collaborate with, with offices outside of er E in particular areas that are kind of priority or is. So, for example, you've heard a lot about energy storage today and
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Diana Bauer: That grand challenges is, is co led by er E and the Office of Electricity. So we've been working quite a bit with the Office of Electricity also Office of Technology transitions.
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Diana Bauer: Office of Science to some extent fossil energy there in that in that one in the water security grand challenge. We definitely work with fossil energy and nuclear energy.
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Diana Bauer: And
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Diana Bauer: The week there's a there's a administration, you know, as in the in the in the President's budget on a collaboration across
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Diana Bauer: Nuclear energy fossil energy and a mo on materials for her service conditions. So, generally we work and I think you heard about some other collaborations.
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Diana Bauer: Across offices in some of the other talks today. So generally, our, our work across offices are is focused on particular topics of interest.
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Diana Bauer: Is that. Does that answer your question.
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Raghubir Gupta: Thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you Rob, you're sharing
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Sharon Nolen: Yes. Hi, Diana. Um, so I wanted to ask about the National Lab. So you mentioned the labs having unique capabilities and that's
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Sharon Nolen: Certainly true
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Sharon Nolen: Then there's also
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Sharon Nolen: Overlap between the national labs.
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Sharon Nolen: And so I just wanted to ask about how you try to promote
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Sharon Nolen: Collaboration and not competition between the labs.
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Diana Bauer: Yeah, so if you have any suggestions, let me know because because I'm sort of that's one of my kind of questions, because I do feel like I'm
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Diana Bauer: In our in our conversations with the National Labs.
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Diana Bauer: There's, you know, I think, I think the National Labs themselves have some tension between kind of promoting themselves and
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Diana Bauer: Kind of thinking about up like a broader agenda for the for the nation, in a sense, and I think I think sometimes it's hard to get that creative tension, you know, just so um but I think in the area of the future of manufacturing, for example.
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Diana Bauer: I know that I personally
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Diana Bauer: Envision trying to come up with some sort of framework that that enables the national labs to kind of play together according to their individual strengths
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Diana Bauer: And, you know, where there are overlaps.
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Diana Bauer: You know, divide and conquer. So I think, I think part of it is about getting to
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Diana Bauer: I a, you know, kind of sharing in innovation at the national level, which is which is which is you know is, is compliments that frequent approach of the labs thinking in there and promote from a perspective of self interest. You know, I think it's I think it's I think it's one of those
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Diana Bauer: Sort of balancing acts that's it's hard to get precisely right but would welcome having your input on that one.
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Diana Bauer: Okay.
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Sharon Nolen: Thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you, Steve. You have questions.
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Steve Sciamanna: Yes, Diana.
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Steve Sciamanna: To this sort of related here. So when I think about, you know, our goal is to
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Steve Sciamanna: Be able to have the USA manufacturing economy and machine compete and and and
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Steve Sciamanna: So who, how do you get the gaps between
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Steve Sciamanna: Were stuff materials are currently being made.
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Steve Sciamanna: versus what's needed to make them.
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Steve Sciamanna: competitively domestically. So there's we're talking about stuff that we need. And presumably, everything is made somewhere now, and maybe there's some new things that aren't made yet.
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Steve Sciamanna: We, the reason they're being made someplace else is because they're being made cheaper.
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Diana Bauer: And
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Steve Sciamanna: And so who defines those gaps of what what those things are and what needs to be closed, such that we can do them here and and be competitive.
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Diana Bauer: So you're talking in terms of in terms of costs of currently manufactured
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Steve Sciamanna: Items right
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Steve Sciamanna: We're talking
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Diana Bauer: We're talking about across multiple stages of the supply chain, for example.
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Steve Sciamanna: Or, you know, we're talking about making you know New
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Steve Sciamanna: Advanced Manufacturing and
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Diana Bauer: Yeah, and
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Steve Sciamanna: We have to make them. We want to make them here and us. This is the goal is to invest in us and stuff is made. Now that and we and we want to make it you know better and cheaper and faster. But there's gaps.
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Steve Sciamanna: So it, it may be you when you said that you
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Diana Bauer: Didn't gaps. When you said gaps, can you can you further specify what you mean by God.
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Steve Sciamanna: Well, they're not being made in the US now because we can't make them.
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Steve Sciamanna: cheaper, better, faster.
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Diana Bauer: Across Capra or
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Steve Sciamanna: Right quality gap cost gap. I don't know.
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Steve Sciamanna: So is it your discussions with industry that they tell you that, hey, we need to be able to to do this to be able to
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Steve Sciamanna: You know, on short. How do you figure out what what
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Diana Bauer: Yeah, so, so, I mean, just a couple of things in answer to your question. One is, I think, I think, to to figure out how to
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Diana Bauer: Get, get lower costs with with things that were already manufacturing. Um, I don't know that that's really I don't know that that's going to really a winning strategy i think i think i think a bulk of our effort needs to be focused on
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Diana Bauer: You know, kind of thinking ahead to the next.
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Diana Bauer: The next thing like sort of what isn't yet being manufactured. So, so, for example, battery storage, if that's if that's ramping up due to, you know, increases in electric vehicles and and increase deployment in
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Diana Bauer: In in grid storage, for example, then this that this is a good time to be ramping up our manufacturing because it's a it's a global market is not just a domestic market. So thinking about places where markets are are expanding. I mean in terms of thinking across supply chains and cost.
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Diana Bauer: There's benchmarking that's done out of en route through the Mac, and I can't, I can't remember what that stands for, but they have an analytical tool analytical approach that looks at
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Diana Bauer: You know, sort of comparing costs of
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Diana Bauer: A difference
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Steve Sciamanna: So you pick you pick batteries so batteries are all made, you know, predominantly
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Diana Bauer: So if you look at if you look at vehicle batteries. For example, let's
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Diana Bauer: About 20 something like 20% are made in the US, I other batteries are
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Diana Bauer: Primarily manufactured elsewhere, but I have a toehold in in vehicle batteries. So why not build from there, you know, in terms of as as as electric vehicle production is increasing globally build from
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Steve Sciamanna: Where we are so I heard you mentioned batteries. But yeah, I didn't hear. So I heard storage energy storage but I heard nothing about grid scale storage. I heard nothing
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Steve Sciamanna: About gigawatt hours, you know, back batteries are you know at that scale.
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Diana Bauer: So, so
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Diana Bauer: Uh, well,
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Diana Bauer: Maybe they're just toys. But if you look at the total you know amount of storage that is is is being globally deployed right now and projections into the future.
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Diana Bauer: It's still dominated by vehicle so maybe each one is a toy, but together. They're there. They dwarf the scale of a grid storage. So, and a lot of the technologies that are used for grid storage benefit from the advances that are being made and vehicle storage.
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Steve Sciamanna: Okay, so
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Nancy Margolis: In the interest of time, I think we might need to move on.
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Nancy Margolis: Okay, so
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Diana Bauer: Why, why
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you Jim lions. Did you have a quick question for Diana.
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James Lyons: On strategy. Sure, sure. I wanted to weigh in on the listening.
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James Lyons: Sessions that you have
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James Lyons: It sounds like it did order to expand a little bit to include not just National Labs. So that just a comment.
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Diana Bauer: So, and how would you suggest going about that. What would you
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James Lyons: What would you say I'd be happy to go to
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James Lyons: 1% so you
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James Lyons: Take some of your peer reviewers and and invited me, you know, particularly where they have expertise relevant
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James Lyons: Comment effort on
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James Lyons: The electrification of cement. I guess I don't get that one. I don't know how that was decided on.
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James Lyons: I could see
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James Lyons: Overall, you know, cement industry, you know, energy use and carbon us well i think but electrification things to be a bit of a stretch. Now, I don't know how that was decided on.
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Nancy Margolis: You know, I'm not sure. In the interest of time, if we have really enough time to go into that. Is that something perhaps Diana, you could send us an email.
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Nancy Margolis: About her and I
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Diana Bauer: Do think I do think that that was in Joe's presentation. Yeah.
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James Lyons: Oh, that was a joke.
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James Lyons: Yes. Okay.
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Diana Bauer: Yeah, so I can, I can say is that Julia.
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James Lyons: To strategy.
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Presentations
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Nancy Margolis: Okay, very good.
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Nancy Margolis: So speaking of job. Let's move on to his presentation on strategic analysis and Paul. We're going to start out uh let you have the first question.
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Nancy Margolis: All
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Nancy Margolis: Right.
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Paul Bryan: Sorry, just taking a second to get off mute here, my, my phone was defeating me
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Paul Bryan: Yeah, this, this one actually applies. I think across this this presentation and also Diana's
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Paul Bryan: I guess in process, I'd say when the question about jobs was asked to Daniel Simmons. I was really hoping for a much more enthusiastic response.
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Paul Bryan: I think of jobs as the least partisan issue. Nobody's against jobs that I know of. And also,
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Paul Bryan: It's all it's insensitive to, you know, what we think about oil prices or security of supply at any given time, that can become a more thorny issue or or a non issue, depending on how things are going with supply and pricing and it doesn't get us into
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Paul Bryan: A hissy fit about, you know, who believes in climate change and who doesn't. So I think for a lot of reasons job should be important. And what that is background.
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Paul Bryan: Does a mo look at all. I know you think about economic viability and that relates to jobs, but does a mo think at all about, you know,
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Paul Bryan: New technologies like automation will directly reduce the employment as a direct effect.
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Paul Bryan: And also some new technologies, they may not be automating per se, but they may be displacing a more labor intensive technology with a less labor intensive one
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Paul Bryan: So I guess the question I'm coming to is the CMO. Think about the balance of what they're doing, and are they generating more jobs or fewer jobs for Americans.
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Cresko: So all that. Yeah.
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Cresko: I think it's interesting you mentioned it in some ways, it's not a contentious kind of topic. Everybody likes jobs, but then you identified a number of things that make it a very thorny issue.
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Cresko: And we think that I would agree with you that that's right and
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Cresko: A couple of comments.
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Cresko: You know that gathering storm.
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Cresko: Studies STUDY. I MENTIONED
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Cresko: Well, in the beginning they quickly talk about innovation that quote I mentioned. They also very quickly talked about
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Cresko: It is important to consider. They even refer to it. I think it's the very first figure in chapter two and alternative perspective, which is you need to consider the unintended consequences of technology investments and and certainly we
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Cresko: Don't always do that. Well, I think over time we maybe find ourselves fighting the last battle and then
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Cresko: We we plow forward with technology investments and maybe think about certain things lessons that we've learned in the past and but but there's always new lessons to be learned.
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Cresko: So yes, we think about it. We are. We also recognize our some of our limitations we aren't economists
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Cresko: There are battles that show up, you know, what is the value of a job.
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Cresko: What happens, you know, what does that displacement look like when certain jobs are lost and other jobs are gained
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Cresko: So,
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Cresko: And where will those jobs happen. Will they happen here in the US versus other places. And you're right. We do look at things like AND AS DIANA mentioned
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Cresko: A lot of the supply chain analyses have looked at things like the manufacturer of technologies.
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Cresko: Based on their location, the minimum sustainable price, it takes to manufacturing one location versus the other.
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Cresko: And what are the comparative and competitive advantages which can include things like labor costs so that all gets folded into some of the analyses.
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Cresko: And some of our labs have done and for example, I believe this NFL has a has a tool that they've developed that uses implant data in in in
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Cresko: Plan data economic data it called the Jetta the jobs and economic development indicator tool. So there are pockets of work that have been done.
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Cresko: On, on, you know, certain for certain technologies and trying to better understand this idea of, you know, with input output modeling. What happens with jobs, but it's really not. I think a focus area of ours. We really want to be
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Cresko: Our approach. I think has been highly focused on
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Cresko: If the world is changing. If technologies are coming in line. What are the
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Cresko: Employment needs. What are the gaps that exist and how can we
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Cresko: Think about investing to help fill those gaps. So, as Mike mentioned that idea of with the consortium, that is a part of every one of the Consortium has to understand
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Cresko: On what those that you know that the workforce development needs are for those industries as those technologies get deployed. So there are definitely pockets and approaches that we
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Cresko: Look at as we go into it, you're raised the probably the most difficult one. Smart manufacturing and what happens as those smarter technologies more automated technologies can come online and displace jobs, but this has been going on for a very long time. And it's, it is it is it is not
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Cresko: I think in many ways a well understood. There's a lot of discrepancy in terms of have job. Let's say losses in the US.
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Cresko: manufacturing sector, of course, we have lost a significant number of jobs.
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Cresko: But also some jobs have been displaced, even within the United States. Maybe engineering departments that used to exist at
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Cresko: Large manufacturing companies have shifted to be outsourced. And so those those pictures are not always clear where and how jobs are displaced.
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Cresko: I don't know if that's an answer. We certainly think about it and worry about it. And we are definitely making investments and taking strategies to
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Cresko: To think about workforce development, but we we don't i don't think that I would say that we try to pursue in depth sort of jobs type modeling to try to, you know, thoroughly understand the that that that balance. And I think that for us, could be
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Cresko: A very difficult proposition.
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Nancy Margolis: Well yeah okay right so I
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Paul Bryan: Don't expect you guys to be the Bureau of Labor Statistics or the
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Paul Bryan: Church Council of Economic Advisers, I just, I guess my, my, my question is more about, you know, looking at the program and its totality.
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Paul Bryan: You know, is there any attempt to say, you know, this creating jobs are destroying jobs in net. And if it's creating jobs, you know, are they are they focused on high skilled jobs that
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Paul Bryan: You're probably good ones for retaining in the US or they focused on on lower skilled jobs that are more likely to get off short but your answer was fine. I just, I just think it's an important issue and and bears all the attention that you can give to it. I agree. Yes, thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Yes.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you, Rhonda beer. You have a question for Joe
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Raghubir Gupta: Okay, I don't
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Raghubir Gupta: I saw how do you calibrate your analysis with the other countries like Europeans have a pretty detailed the roadmap on the manufacturing operations. So do you do some time to go back and see what they are doing and what we are doing and what we can learn from each other.
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Cresko: Oh yeah, I mean that you know what if you think about any of the studies. There's deep you know literature review that goes into looking at those things, you know, in from time to time. And we've had the benefit of
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Cresko: You know partners that we're engaged with on our efforts.
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Cresko: working directly with
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Cresko: You know, international organizations. For example, a few years ago. We've had one of our somebody who came through our office, I think, on an IPA, who had been involved
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Cresko: With one of the sort of like the sort of the sister consortium in Europe, UK, the catapult organization had you know experience there that type of experience coming into our office really helpful for us to kind of understand that through some of our source, I believe, for example, I acne.
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Cresko: Even has done some work directly with our colleagues in the UK and Europe to better understand their roadmaps in the pathways to
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Cresko: You know, developing technologies associated with advanced composites. So I know the answer is yes. And we've also not only within the studies but actual, direct engagement on you know with with
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Cresko: With our partners. And of course, last thing I'll mention too is that, you know, many of our you know companies in which we do work with an
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Cresko: r&d projects are international companies, you know, they have to work in an industry national environment and they're bringing you know their knowledge and skills and capabilities of working
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Cresko: across the borders, you know in in a more global environment to the table on as they're developing as they're developing technologies. And yeah, so I think you know if the answer is yes. And in a number of ways.
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Raghubir Gupta: Thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Sure. Thank you very much. Sharon Nolan
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Sharon Nolen: Yeah I appreciated the discussion of the retrospective analysis. I think that's something that we had talked about it, the peer review last year.
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Sharon Nolen: So I just wanted to ask, as you're doing the retrospective analysis, how do you identify and share the lessons learned, either, you know, things that did not go well or things that didn't go well.
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Cresko: Yeah, I would say there are elements to the retrospective analysis that are still nascent for us, um,
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Cresko: I mentioned a couple likes you know when I think about the entire portfolio retrospective work, ranging from a patent citation analysis, which is not about you know
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Cresko: Let's say the operational aspects of what happened or what went well. It's more about that knowledge diffusion and where investments may have had that sort of spill on effect. But to your point, Sharon about
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Cresko: You know, you know, kind of the lessons learned, you know, we're starting to take a little bit better closer look, the technology tracking
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Cresko: Has really, you know, looked at
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Cresko: For example, I mentioned earlier, I think that more the spending more than 400 technologies have been commercialized and so had some downstream impact and we have
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Cresko: added up the energy and emissions impacts right from those investments. Right. Um, but what I can say that we probably really haven't done so well is looked at those
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Cresko: Let's say technologies that didn't did not become commercialized. And what happened with those. And what was some of the failure so that it really is. Um, I think it goes outside a little bit of what we have taken on it does get to the point of doing sort of evaluation program evaluation.
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Cresko: Which, how do I put this it is it is kind of difficult to fund those because you generally need a long enough period of time. And when you
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Cresko: When you want to propose that, let's say, to leadership, whoever leadership. Maybe they're like they want to be looking forward and not backward
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Cresko: So it's not an easy thing to sell that you know to spend the same millions of dollars looking
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Cresko: Backwards when it can be. Let's just keep going forward. But as you know, you know, if you don't, you know, think about your history, you can be doomed to, you know, repeat that. So yeah, it's, it's, I don't have a great answer for you there. You know, I think we're, we can do that with some of the
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Cresko: You know, maybe even how they call it the institutional knowledge that we have. I mean, Valerie mentioned earlier that she was started at DMV as
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Cresko: patrolling refining technology manager. So we are and have been very lucky. I would say probably more so than any other office. I started in a mo about 12 years ago as a fellow and
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Cresko: That whole time I've been we've had a long sort of a lot of institutional knowledge which has been very helpful and still have that today.
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Cresko: Yes, people have been turning over but that institutional knowledge is actually quite exceptional. It's amazing how you will see
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Cresko: Both technology managers, as well as the peer reviewers that we've brought into our process to help us look at, you know, funding proposals to our fellows that can identify
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Cresko: You know, places where that may be better or or not so good to pursue so that you know that may be more of a, you know, less of a formalized way but it's definitely been, it is important for us to to leverage some of that knowledge base as well.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you. Thank you Joe. Steve Shimada
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Steve Sciamanna: Alright, Joe I I echo what Paul said
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Steve Sciamanna: Wholeheartedly. In fact, I noticed that when I asked the question about the the jobs to Daniel Simmons. He punted it to you and Valerie.
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Steve Sciamanna: So it must be, you know, more complicated because I thought it would have been a no brainer for him, but I really think the MO could distinguish itself.
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Steve Sciamanna: If it actually had this component in it. In fact, that you have the ability to create new industries and new industries that can, you know, create these kinds of jobs. So I don't think the other ones have this knob as much as a mo does and I I don't know the answer to it, but
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Steve Sciamanna: I think you could really make yourself, different from the other organizations that in the deal. Eat but but my question was in your studies, you have a lot of really great studies and analysis and landscaping and all this kind of stuff, but
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Steve Sciamanna: And you can make data driven decisions because of all this and maybe this is still a work in progress. But how do you get to the point or in the whale industry we call drill here.
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Steve Sciamanna: You know it's invest in this all you've done all this analysis. How do you get to the point where you can use all this and say this is where we need to invest
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Steve Sciamanna: So you've you've looked backwards, forwards sideways and now you have all this data do. Are you going to use that to say invest here. Yeah.
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Cresko: Sure. I mean, the example I just, I'll just mention again that one example I taught the only one. One example I spoke to today with respect to energy, water desalination.
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Cresko: And just to, you know, that I wanted to bring that one up as an example. You know, in our recent history with a very major investment over 100 million dollars going into
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Cresko: The National Alliance for water innovation, the energy, water desalination hub.
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Cresko: Were very directed and robust research has helped us understand where that opportunity space is, but we also have this balancing act where we don't want to overprescribe
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Cresko: Where we're going, so we really want to help do some of the landscaping, um, identify hotspots. It may be a hotspot analysis, in a way, and then really put something, you know, get it.
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Cresko: Developed to a point where we can put it into our funding opportunity analyses that go out there. We don't want to over constrain what we're putting out on the street.
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Cresko: But we don't want to put out something that is just completely wide open. Tell us what wonderful ideas you have for advanced manufacturing and then what comes back is
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Cresko: You know, a million ideas from a million in a million different you know proposals so that is I think a continuous effort that we do, we do.
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Steve Sciamanna: Okay.
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Cresko: And what what Diana spoke to, for example, um, the entire process of getting input from stakeholders through workshops and virtual meetings, getting input from our lab listening sessions getting input from you guys input from everybody that's on this.
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Cresko: Peer Review, you know, we encourage people to kind of reach out to us, talk to us work through these processes.
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Cresko: You know, help us think about what the future is all the way down to our, you know, getting our hands dirty developing some of these white papers.
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Cresko: Off, for example, over this past year, year and a half teaming up this strategic analysis team you're seeing the names of some people in this group of
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Cresko: And I'll just make the point of the question came up earlier, I think. Sure, and asked, how do we get labs to maybe work better together. Um, it is not easy to do that.
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Cresko: But we have really had to put together a you know a focused team with input from some of the best
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Cresko: Analysts researchers at some of our national labs that collaborate together and put together a cohesive activity.
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Cresko: Approach for some of our analysis activities and work with our technology managers on, you know, collaborate with them. So, it is it is sort of like an all hands on deck effort to continuously improve that not improve but continuously
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Cresko: Perform you know on that process. I guess in some ways it is a PTC a plan, do, check, act process of seeing where we're going, looking in there, improving
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Cresko: And updating our technology opportunity space. So you know that you know that that is, you know, we hear you. And I think that we've been doing more and better job of
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Cresko: Of doing that, not just pulling our data and information out there and putting out there on the street, but actually having it driven into our program for decision making.
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Steve Sciamanna: Cool. Thank you. You're welcome.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you Jim lions.
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James Lyons: Oh yeah, I wanted to ask about the NA wi. This seems like a
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James Lyons: Very good.
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James Lyons: Organized organized program that you guys have set up.
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James Lyons: So the bandwidth study was in 2017 if I got that right. So what's happened since then and where it's what's what's going on there.
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Cresko: Sure, um, you know, I don't know if you know if Melissa is unmuted. And what is on and wants to sort of speak directly to it. Our technology manager that's running. I'm not now. Ethan
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Melissa Klembara: I'm here. Hey,
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Melissa Klembara: Yeah.
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Cresko: Why don't you just speak to that quickly. I want to give you the
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Cresko: Microphone.
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Melissa Klembara: Okay. Um, so we have been receiving funding since 2017 for the national for the energy, water desalination hub and I'm going to talk about this a lot more tomorrow. So I'll just
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Melissa Klembara: Be brief but I'll definitely go into a deeper dive gym tomorrow on on now. We and kind of where it's at. But, um, so we competed this solicitation.
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Melissa Klembara: The follow up back in 20 December 2013 and then we selected. Now, we in the fall in September of 2019
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Melissa Klembara: So we negotiated the it's, it's an MO contract because it involves Lawrence Berkeley National Lab is the lead but and Royal Oak Ridge and any TL, to some extent, is involved. Um, so we needed to negotiate the terms and conditions as per the
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James Lyons: Contract really got organized to several left to right.
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Melissa Klembara: Yeah, so they officially came under sort of like contract by
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Melissa Klembara: February 2020 and just to highlight some of the things that they're doing this year are to put together research roadmaps that identify the high priority.
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Melissa Klembara: And highest impact.
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Melissa Klembara: Areas for bringing down the energy intensity of desalination from various water source.
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Melissa Klembara: To end use pathways and they'll also be developing modeling tools to collect data to show the current baseline from those various water source to end us pathways with the current state of technology.
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James Lyons: Saying, that's bad answer. Yeah, so that that's what I wanted to hear. So the roadmaps and process and they're going to analyze the effectiveness of different approaches.
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Melissa Klembara: Yeah.
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James Lyons: Yeah, we can be out this year.
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James Lyons: Excellent. Thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Very thank you john will
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John Wall: Spin and I, I'm not quite sure where this fits in, Joe. So I'll just hit you with it because you probably have run out of time anyway.
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John Wall: I'm curious about project management, you know, the introspective analysis, the slide that you've got with a half a dozen categories kind of swirl around it but don't actually dropped down to
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John Wall: That level might mention the golden no go decisions and consortium projects ARPA e makes a real big deal, as we've learned with our in a study about
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John Wall: Active program management. So, or project management, what, what can you say about project management inside a mo is you're doing an introspective analysis to your get close enough to the ground that you either change the direction of projects or even kill some if they're not making it
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Cresko: Yeah, you know, the term active project management. I think it happens on a few levels, there is a, there actually is an entire sort of methodology that exists at the ER e level for active project management that tends to focus a bit more. I would say on the
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Cresko: Let's say the budget, you know, the milestones that exist in a table and sort of
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John Wall: Very actually brought over with him from RP
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Cresko: Yeah, so that that does exist, and that's a thing that I think is, is good, but it's not in many ways, it doesn't get to that next level, Jonathan, you're talking about riches. You know how
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Cresko: How impactful. Is it and I think for us when I think about the entirety of a process. And I think why this will take us a few years to get it firmed up is that it it really requires us
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Cresko: At the beginning, beginning at the Funding Opportunity Announcement level to craft on topics and some topic areas that make it very clear that the applicant has to
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Cresko: respond in a way that that that that kind of impact and potential is is really well kind of laid out.
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Cresko: And, you know, sometimes we've done that. Well, in the past, and other times we have it by putting a methodology in place that starts, then that gives us an ability to hit the ground running.
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Cresko: So are a mo not era, but our I think of this as a bit as as our mo active project management, which goes to that sort of kind of next level of detail.
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Cresko: And the other point I want to make to this. I think it really is what is the thing that needs to be, I think, owned by our technology managers, they really need to own that process.
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Cresko: And be really engaged and Mike mentioned, you know, not only does this happen in the you know the consortium, but all of our projects substantial involvement. The term substantial involvement is, you know, part of our language that is used. So, so yes, those, those kind of
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Cresko: Processes and approaches and and methods to look and work and work, hopefully in a very collaborative way with our partners because
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Cresko: I think we have a balancing act to pursue, which is that we aren't looked at like the Inspector General. It's not like we have an adversarial relationship. We all want this when when process to happen. And so if we can do that.
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Cresko: It really provides the ability for us to be, win, win, not only the technology development, but thinking about techno economic you know the market angle.
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Cresko: And where's this going to go
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Cresko: As it marches forward so
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John Wall: It's not the Spanish Inquisition. It's just that if you already knew that the project would be successful, you wouldn't have to do it in the first place.
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John Wall: So it's research long, it's how do
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You
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John Wall: How do you sort of stay objective about whether it's, it's going to be able to deliver and whether you should keep spending money on
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Valri Lightner: Sure.
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Cresko: I mean, Valerie. I don't know. You have a few comments on that.
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Valri Lightner: Well, just the only thing that I was going to add Mike mentioned for consortia that we do a separate peer review for each of the consortium that you know
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Valri Lightner: provides additional input to that personal specific projects there but. Additionally, there have been cases where some of our technology managers on r&d project side have have brought in kind of a
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Valri Lightner: Some subject matter experts to provide them some specific recommendations and technology areas and as a result of that, there has been some discussion just continue
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John Wall: Okay, thanks.
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Nancy Margolis: Sure. Okay. Thank you. What I'm going to do is skip over questions for Lauren's budget presentation and I'm going to ask for viewers if they have questions on budget to bring those up in these appropriate
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Nancy Margolis: sessions tomorrow, and I'm going to move on to the RD consortium model Sharon, would you like to kick us off.
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Nancy Margolis: Questions on that.
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Sharon Nolen: Sure. Okay. So last year, the peer review panel really had kind of, I think, the mistaken impression that these consortium don't take a lot of time.
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Sharon Nolen: And I remember you all being thinking we were really, you know, had not interpreted that correctly. So thank you. I think you did a good job of helping us understand more. What a mo.
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Sharon Nolen: Role is with the consortia but there was also concerned last year that may be that the people at a mo are spread thin
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Sharon Nolen: And so, you know, there's a lot of structure with these consortia is, is it something that they could be made more autonomous or, you know, I'm just thinking about how to prioritize with the work that you have to do, and the limited staff, you have available.
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Mike McKittrick: Thanks, Tara. That's a, that's a great question. And as we look at the last slide where I have the team you'll see some repeating the names
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Mike McKittrick: Throughout the, the, you know, people managing more than one consortia or. One more. One more than one institute and
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Mike McKittrick: So that's a challenge, I think, trying to balance our staff time as well as doing are appropriate role and the Federal management is something we were working with.
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Mike McKittrick: I think though the staffing increases have helped we've hired a couple new technology managers on the r&d consortia team.
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Mike McKittrick: A couple of the new fellows that will be coming on in the fall will help us, you know, especially as we're looking at the technical piece, but it's, it's something we struggle with.
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Mike McKittrick: You know, a couple of our Institute's will be moving towards their, you know, kind of ending their cooperative agreement so that may help free up some some staff time and resources in the near future.
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Sharon Nolen: Okay, thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you, Steve. Any questions for my
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Steve Sciamanna: No, I, I am
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Steve Sciamanna: I thank you. It was this was a more of a mystery last year. Now I understand how the sausage is made and that was quite quite helpful. I still have this question, though, about Mike about the
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Steve Sciamanna: You know, as these come to an end, or their, their budget cycle.
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Steve Sciamanna: What's, what's the the exit plan here. How do they stay evergreen and keep going or do they just go away.
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Mike McKittrick: So,
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Mike McKittrick: That's a great question. Stephen and and I'm sure you know, kind of in this realm of this sort of self sustaining federal program that graduates to, you know, tell
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Mike McKittrick: He supported by stakeholders are not common. So I think will really get we're working with two of our Institute's that are moving towards that I actually empower America.
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Mike McKittrick: And I know working towards. You know, there they have various plans on your sheet for power America potentially and shifting some resources through the NC State, which is the prime
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Mike McKittrick: And what we've really seen in a lot of these Institute's is that it has investments from the States or regions that may help prop them up, but
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Mike McKittrick: Well i mean it's it's sort of a living experiment. And we'll see over the next year. How they how they survive. You know how they fare as they move off of the locker room.
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Steve Sciamanna: So none have graduated yet that the one you mentioned is going to be the first one.
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Mike McKittrick: Yes. Yeah, they're not the from the manufacturer USA Institute's you have
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Mike McKittrick: The first ones will graduate, you know, in the next six months.
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Steve Sciamanna: Got it. Thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you Jim lions.
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Nancy Margolis: Very good at see john wall.
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John Wall: Yeah, I think I will hold tight because I actually
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John Wall: Got Mike's, the one that prompted the one that is the question I had for Joe. So let me hang in there because
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John Wall: I know I'm conscious of the time.
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Nancy Margolis: Very good. Paul
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Paul Bryan: Yeah, I had a I had a sort of a fall, sort of a similar question to steams
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Paul Bryan: And it actually also goes back to the budget. I know we're supposed to ask those within the technical areas, but this is a more of an overarching issue.
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Paul Bryan: So I think it would be very useful to see the history of consortium that have been funded, you know, how long did they get funding from the do we, how much did they get
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Paul Bryan: And for the ones that are no longer getting substantial D funding. How are they doing now, you know, whatever happened to X consortium.
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Paul Bryan: The one that relates back to the budget is something I'd be very interested to see is looking back, I don't know, five or 10 years
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Paul Bryan: To see the budget of the budget of a mo spent at the National Labs by percent of budget and year. And the reason I'm interested in. That is because
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Paul Bryan: I think in terms of maintaining capabilities and and and managing our end and keeping up momentum.
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Paul Bryan: You don't want to be jerking people around a lot with the funding, but also I think that if you know if every lab gets exactly the same share every year.
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Paul Bryan: To me that that looks like stagnation. So I'd be kind of interested if you know if a mo is funding to the labs that each individual lab is, you know, bouncing around a lot or totally stagnant or what I would think of some healthy intermediate
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Nancy Margolis: Very good rather beer. You have a question for my
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Raghubir Gupta: I'll skip
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Raghubir Gupta: The test of time.
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Nancy Margolis: Okay, very good. Um, the last presentation was Joe's also on mechanisms for fostering innovation.
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Nancy Margolis: I guess.
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Nancy Margolis: Steve, you would be the first one to have a question.
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Nancy Margolis: Do you have anything you'd like to ask Joe about that his last presentation.
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Steve Sciamanna: Yes. So I think the the lab embedded programs that you described are great and I was I was, I had no i guess i was staggered by the $1 billion that you said his son PLAY ON AT ANY DAY AT THE MO.
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Steve Sciamanna: But the one thing that you mentioned was about
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Steve Sciamanna: Trying to go from discovery to manufacturing and you you've cited as an example was was at&t Bell Labs.
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Steve Sciamanna: And I think that's a really interesting example and I don't know how you can do this, but maybe give some thought to this is that
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Steve Sciamanna: That they were extremely successful because because at AMP T Bell Labs was co located with Western Electric and so you had the the r&d guys were right next to the shop floor, guys.
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Steve Sciamanna: And so they were able to improve the manufacturing process quickly and and to the extent that you can somehow take that model in in the demo. And I don't know how you do this. But that was one of the key features.
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Steve Sciamanna: And and if there was, you know, I don't know how you do that. But when you when you mentioned that. And I was thinking about your fostering innovation that was one key way why it happens. I just leave you with that.
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Nancy Margolis: Okay, go ahead, Joe.
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Cresko: Oh, just really quickly. I think you hit on something that's really important about and it is it is an aspect to the consortium model.
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Cresko: It is they were really on one hand, designed to be a national resource, but you can't ignore the fact that, in some ways, there's an innovation ecosystem around them. If you have a number of partners and
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Cresko: Work working together. So nothing has been is perfect and
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Cresko: I think if you look at every different sort of one of the Institute's. For example, you might see some differences and variations. But to your point, those are
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Cresko: We really recognize those is is an important factors, the idea of manufacturing sciences is really key. And one thing I think that might not have been mentioned today is that the Office of Science, a couple months ago, I think, in March held
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Cresko: A
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Cresko: Workshop on the future of transform transforming manufacturing and manufacturing sciences. So I think there's some
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Cresko: Kind of it's kind of interesting with the Office of Science really starting to think more about the science of manufacturing and yeah I think there's a fertile ground for
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Cresko: A lot of thinking in a lot of ways around that idea that it's not just manufacturing, but there's a true science behind that also
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Steve Sciamanna: Yeah, and CO locating whatever this new industry, you're going to build co locating you know all those smart people that you're training, you know, to sit next door. So I don't know how, but yeah. Okay.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you Jim. Lions anything
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James Lyons: Yeah, I just want to comment on the lab embedded programs I had spent quite some time with cyclotron road and I really liked that, that all over to you guys should be commended on on all of that. So,
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James Lyons: Lots of smart guys
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Yeah.
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Cresko: I'll make a very quick comment. I think I kind of said this during the discussing this, but
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Cresko: A lot of the sort of thinking and thought processes that had gone on for many years about
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Cresko: Hey, we've got these national labs. They are these awesome resources. How do we transfer technology out of the labs.
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Cresko: And what I think was brilliant about the idea of the lab embedded entrepreneurship program is it sort of kind of turns it on its head. You spin in
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Cresko: The hole to the lab that have an idea. You're not just thinking about transferring technology out but you're bringing it in and it's in some way. Steve, it kind of
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Cresko: It's analogous to the point you made about this idea of colocation and getting smart people collaborating together and bringing the resources that they need and getting them to think about
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Cresko: All of the other scientific challenges that exist to get a technology advanced
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Cresko: Certainly people certain people, the chemist is going to identify the chemistry challenges and the mechanical engineer is going to identify another challenge when you start to
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Cresko: Pull those people together, especially an interdisciplinary away and give them the tools. I think that is a really right.
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Cresko: Place for
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Cresko: Advancement so yeah I, it is it is showing some really nice.
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Cresko: Benefits.
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James Lyons: You know, I haven't heard anything about the O. R. And hello version but I assume that your focus on manufacturing stuff right
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Nancy Margolis: Great, thank you john well
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John Wall: I was just going to go down exactly the same path to beat me to it and just put a plug in for the 11 bedded entrepreneurship Jim and I and mark.
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John Wall: Have been involved in soccer Tron road since the beginning. And now, activate in Boston. And so I was happy to see and Torah energy. Make your lips. I've been an advisor for them and for
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John Wall: Claire flame out of arc
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John Wall: So it's I've got first hand knowledge with that as some of the others do and this is a terrific program. So I certainly encourage you to keep that up and even expand it to the degree that you can afford it.
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Cresko: Yeah, to that point, just very quickly. Others TBA Tennessee Valley Authority DARPA has made investments. So other agencies and
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Cresko: This past starting actually last year, we started to really
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Cresko: Press on some of the other era offices. So we've had additional fellows. They haven't they haven't
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Cresko: No other offices that kind of committed to like funding a full node and had a lab, but they've been co funding additional
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Cresko: Fellows at the three nodes that cyclotron road innovation crossroads or or chain reaction innovation. So we've had interest from a number of offices and investments from from some as well. So we are really trying to expand, but it you know in a cautious way.
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John Wall: And I know in line has been good with activated bringing in other outside investors as well. So I think, you know, it also gives them the opportunity to leverage that a mo investment draw understand right
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Cresko: Right, exactly.
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Nancy Margolis: Okay, thank you, Brian.
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Paul Bryan: I will pass, but I will throw in also another vote for the embedded entrepreneurs, I think those are great programs.
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Nancy Margolis: Okay, thank you. Rather beer.
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Raghubir Gupta: Right. All right. You can hear me.
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Raghubir Gupta: Yep. Okay. Yeah. Also, you know, the cyclotron I've been associated with them to remember working with one company try to help them. You know, there's a great program rotting I extension of that.
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Raghubir Gupta: Have you thought about through your regular R amp D program you promote formation of spin outs and
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Raghubir Gupta: Another thing, because in the material science area and manufacturing area is really ripe for those small companies like what are fi does
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Raghubir Gupta: You may want to start thinking about at the time of the funding opportunity announcement that could be one task for technology transfer and market our outreach, you know,
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Cresko: Yeah so quickly up tomorrow. Tina Carlsberg and Jeremy Leon will talk a bit about, for example.
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Cresko: Some ideas there. I'm not only ideas but programs we have, I'm sure everybody's familiar with SPI our small business innovative research and
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Cresko: We take that actually really seriously some offices don't necessarily, you know, they, they see that as that sort of a thing that they have to do because it's mandated. But, you know, but we really fold that into our program and are serious about
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Cresko: The topics that we pursue to make sure that they
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Cresko: You know, coordinate with or leverage our other investments and in fact
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Cresko: In the past, folks that are familiar with the old
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Cresko: Pre it p timeframe with with the
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Cresko: inventions and innovations program. And so, I believe that Tina will mention that as a tomorrow as well as as an example of something that was a good idea in the past.
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Cresko: And that is something that could be looked at again, which was kind of funding.
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Cresko: You know, inventors, and innovators at that sort of small scale completely agree. You know, we are we are doing that with the lab embedded entrepreneurship program.
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Cresko: But could we build on that in other ways that are even more traditional direct investment. So we do have some and that could be and that was considered a highly effective and impactful program. Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you Sharon, you have anything
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Sharon Nolen: No, nothing else. Thank you.
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Nancy Margolis: Okay, then Bob and Melissa, we're going to turn it back to you.
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Melissa Klembara: Okay.
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Melissa Klembara: And I think I'm on deck to kind of wrap us up. Is that right,
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Bob Gemmer: Bob all yours.
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Okay.
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Melissa Klembara: So,
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Melissa Klembara: Just going to take over screen.
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Melissa Klembara: So I'm just waiting for that presentation to be pulled back up.
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Melissa Klembara: Great.
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Melissa Klembara: Alright.
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Melissa Klembara: So I'm wrapping up today's discussion with kind of giving you a little bit of a preview for what we're going to talk about tomorrow.
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Melissa Klembara: And why we kind of framed it the way that we did. I think Joe uses constellation diagram to kind of show the, you know, broad complicated space at a mo pleasing.
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Melissa Klembara: And originally when we were going to do an in person peer review, we had
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Melissa Klembara: All the projects organized under each of these technical areas and the technology managers talking to each other, you know, working across the different pill three pillars in our program.
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Melissa Klembara: And how we're doing work in each of these each of these areas. And since this peer review is more of a programmatic peer review.
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Melissa Klembara: And we use that as an opportunity to look for the, you know, to further look for the interconnected nature of a lot of the work that we're doing and how it complements it
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Melissa Klembara: And so that informed, how we kind of package the panels that you'll see tomorrow that Lauren touched on earlier today and
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Melissa Klembara: So you'll get another level of granularity of the work that we're doing in each of these spaces and how we're thinking about the opportunity
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Melissa Klembara: And the strategic approach that we're taking to the investments that we're making. And what impact that they've they've had. So I'm just gonna go to the next slide.
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Melissa Klembara: Having a little latency issue with this slide.
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Melissa Klembara: Okay, there we go. So the way that we packaged it in Lauren cover the different budgets that we have in each of these areas and the changes that happened from
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Melissa Klembara: And if you have more questions in that area. You can ask the technology managers, based on the current portfolio and also what they're planning for in the out years
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Melissa Klembara: So just give an example you know in the in the additive manufacturing composites and sustainable manufacturing circular economy.
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Melissa Klembara: Three presentations that you'll see in the first panel tomorrow. You know, there's a lot of interrelated work that you'll see in
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Melissa Klembara: Like for instance, the plastics innovation challenge in work that remade is doing under sustainable manufacturing
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Melissa Klembara: Composite work that's going on in I asked me, and at as well as at the MDF.
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Melissa Klembara: So you'll see a deeper discussion tomorrow about each from each of the technology managers that are subject matter experts about how they're thinking about these different technical areas and the work that they're doing and how it's interrelated and we try to stick to a consistent
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Melissa Klembara: template for each of the technology managers to kind of lay that out and discuss the challenges and barriers and what some of the
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Melissa Klembara: Technical targets are that they're trying to achieve with their research portfolio and then get out and I think there were some questions earlier today about the different collaborations that are going on.
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Melissa Klembara: Across other offices and do we across other agencies as we think about the opportunity space and the approach that we're taking into some of these investments, so that we're coordinating well with other offices and how they're thinking about this.
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Melissa Klembara: And then also touch on some of the successes that we've had and how we're tracking those impacts and kind of tying back to what Joe was laying out with it at
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Melissa Klembara: The introspective project analysis and trying to make sure that we're doing a better job of collecting data from our projects to show progress against the technical targets in these different areas.
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Melissa Klembara: So, um, with that, oh, I'll wrap it up and we look forward to continuing the discussion tomorrow, more deeply in each of these areas and seeing everyone back tomorrow morning. So, over to you, Bob. If you have any final thoughts or questions.
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Bob Gemmer: What you tomorrow.
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Melissa Klembara: Okay, great. Thanks everyone.
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Nancy Margolis: Thank you.