The U.S. Department of Energy hosted the webinar, 50001 Ready Utility Network Series: Training Portfolio, in June 2020 to provide a guided tour through the training material updates. The training materials teach the fundamental concepts of 50001 Ready and are presented with varying levels of detail targeted to audiences spanning from end-user energy managers to utility efficiency program administrators. The entire training portfolio has been developed and is used by trainers and program staff to teach various audiences about ISO 50001 and how to implement an energy management system with the 50001 Ready Navigator.
This webinar is part of DOE’s 50001 Ready Utility Network Series, a forum for utilities, public benefit administrators (PBA’s), third party implementers, consultants, and regulators who share an interest in energy management systems (EnMS) including ISO 50001 and DOE’s 50001 Ready program. Explore 50001 Ready resources tailored to utilities, implementers, and energy service providers.
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Ethan Rogers: Welcome, everybody. My name is Ethan Rogers. I'm with the Department of Energy's Advanced Manufacturing Office, and I work with our energy management team. One of our key programs, and that is the 50001 Ready program, which I suspect most of you are already familiar with. Of course, this is our 10th series of the Utility Network Series. And today we're going to be talking about some of the different training materials that we've developed over the years for this program. So, we'll go ahead and go to the first slide. And talk about what we're going to talk about today. So – most of today, I hope to talk about these new training materials, but we may have some time left over. And if that is the case, we will kind of do a review of some of the recent changes and updates to the Navigator platform and how it can be useful to utility sector strategic energy management programs, and also how the multi-site function works. But again, most of today I want to spend talking to you about these new training materials we've created and who they're intended for, how you might use them in your program or at your facility. So, we'll go ahead and go to the next slide.
So, these training materials that we've developed over the years – and some of them are developed here at AMO, some by LBNL, some by some of our authorized trainers. They've – at the very minimum, they teach the fundamental concept, the concepts of the 50001 Ready program. And they're obviously different levels and they're intended for different target audiences, ranging from just awareness, to end users and energy managers, and utility program administrators. All of them address the foundations of the ISO 50001 energy management standard. Each deck, or in some cases packets of decks, slide decks, has a different objective and a different audience, and that shapes how it covers the topics, such as just general energy management system, as well as how much detail it gets into with the step-by-step instructions for implementing the 50001 Ready Navigator's twenty five tasks. The entire training portfolio has been developed and is used by our certified trainers and program staff to teach various audiences about ISO 50001, and how to implement energy management systems using the 50001 Ready Navigator. So, we'll go to the next slide.
To access these training materials, you will go to – of course, you’ll log into the Navigator, and you’ll go to My Navigator menu bar, and located at the upper top right of the corner – you can see there circled - you can click on that, and you get the display of options, the menu to the right. And then you can scroll down to the bottom and select the training materials. Note that the training materials overview are viewable by anyone, but if you want to download the training, you'll need to log into your Navigator account. So, we'll go to the next slide.
And we have broken these down into three different categories. And there's a little bit of overlap here between these three. But the first group is the introductory. And this provides an introduction to energy management systems, as well as the 50001 Ready Navigator program. And as you can see there is five different ones, five different to slide decks that we have loaded to the Navigator for this. Each one, like the first one is quite cursory. And of course, it gets to quite detailed toward the end. The next is educational materials. A couple of different packets there. And then the implementation materials. So, what I’d like to do is actually go through these incrementally so that you can understand the details of what is in each of these slide decks. So, we’ll go to the next slide on energy management system and 50001 Ready introductory materials. These free materials are designed to be introduced – to introduce participants to an energy management system based on the ISO 50001 standard and the concepts and structure and features of the 50001 Ready Navigator. Ideally, after receiving this training, participants should be able to explain to others what the 50001 Ready Navigator is and make an informed decision on the approach for implementing that at their organization.
So, the first one, the 50001 Ready Brief Introduction for End Users. This is the type of presentation that myself or my colleagues might give at some type of event, just give people an overview. It's a set of 16 slides. It takes about 15 to 30 minutes to present, probably 15 minutes for me, maybe 30 minutes for my colleagues since I tend to go through things pretty quickly. And the intended audience for it is those who may be interested in, support, participate in implementation at a site. So pretty much usable for anybody. And it introduces the fundamental concepts from an energy management system. It suggests using the Ready program as a way of implementing a system and provides an overview of the resources available through the Navigator. So that's the first one.
The second one, the 50001 Ready General Introduction. - the general introduction to end users is a bit longer. It's a set of 30 slides. So, it’ll take a little bit longer, 30 to 45 minutes. And so, we're looking - this would be useful for people who are interested in learning about a bit more about energy management systems and how the Navigator can help their organizations. It introduces the concepts of energy management systems. It gives a detailed description of what they entail. It explains the Ready program and how the Navigator can help you implement that. It offers a high-level understanding of the value of the 50001 Ready program and the Navigator, and also includes some success stories. It includes slides on tools that are accessible through the Navigator, such as our energy footprint tool, our ENPI Lite tool, which is a regression analysis tool. And the project register tool. So, a bit more than just a cursory introduction, gets a little bit more into it.
The next one, the Energy Management System Information Training, is a set of 68 slides and also includes some speaker notes. It will take about two hours to go through. And so, it's targeted at people looking for more information and explaining the details of an energy management system and the uptake of, kind of encouraging the uptake of energy management systems. It provides a comprehensive overview of the purpose of an energy management system, specifically the ISO 50001 standard. It talks about, of course, our tools, the Ready Navigator and the tools I mentioned before, and how they can be used to support an implementation of an energy management system and just the energy savings activities in general. It also discusses the types of organizations that would make good candidates to take on the challenges of implementing an energy management system, i.e., an organization that is ready to make such a commitment, that has perhaps an energy team in place, that type of thing. It includes several backup slides on case studies, reference tools or reference materials, tools, and even some information for promoting the program.
The next one, the Energy Management System Information Training for Utility Program Administrators, which I suspect is a big part of our audience today, is a set of 77 slides with speaker notes. It'll also take a couple of hours to present. And it is intended, as the title indicates, for program administrators and implementers that are looking for information, explaining and promoting the uptake of energy management systems with a particular focus on the 50001 Ready Navigator tool and how it can be leveraged by utility energy efficiency programs, either just a regular overarching portfolio of energy programs or specifically an SEM program. It introduces the concepts and the purpose of the 50001 standard and showcases, again, our tools, the Ready program and the Navigator platform. It – the materials in the slide deck are designed to demonstrate how the program can be leveraged by utility energy efficiency programs. It highlights the Navigator's Partner Platform and how you can use cohorts to implement a program, or how, I should say, you can implement a program with cohorts. And how the Navigator can help you manage that cohort functionality through your program. So, the nice platform there.
And then the last one, the Multi-site Implementation Distance Learning for Central Offices Staff is also a two to three hour presentation, 75 slides here, and as the title indicates, intended for central office team that would support the implementation of an energy management system using the energy – using the 50001 Ready Navigator across their organization. And so it provides an introduction to energy management systems, and how you could use this in an SEM program or energy management program, whatever you call it, at your facility, as well as giving an overview of the value that this program could provide to your company. The training teaches multi-site project teams the fundamentals of the ISO 50001 standard or a 50001 standard-based energy management system, and how to use the 50001 Ready Navigator, including an overview of the twenty-five tasks that are in the Navigator. Again, like the previous one, discusses the use of cohorts and how they can be used in program delivery and how the Navigator can help you manage that. The participants also learn how to define the multi-site team role relative to the site-level energy team role. So, some information on roles there.
So those are the five different slide decks that we have that we call introduction materials. And as you can see, progressively more information as you get into it. So that will go to the next slide, which talks about the educational, the two educational material packets of information. These are focused on introducing audiences to the detailed Navigator’s 25 tasks. The implementation of the 50001 Ready is not necessarily the intended outcome of these trainings, but rather to create familiarity and knowledge of the 50001 Ready program and the Navigator. The presentations can be used to educate people on energy management systems, the Ready program and the use of the Navigator, or it could actually be used by a company or a utility program to manage an energy efficiency, energy management effort, that makes use of the 50001 Ready Navigator tool.
So the first one, the Ready Training for Utility Energy Efficiency Staff. Again, I suspect this is something that would be very useful to a lot of the folks attending today. It is a set of six slide decks, broken out into two sets. The one set has a presentation for day one and day two of the two-day training session, as well as a pre-training webinar of about 30 slides. Day one and day two are over 100 slides each, around 110 to 120 slides each. The second set of slides is the same material, but includes speaker notes. And so, the way I envision this could be used, is the first one you’re going actually be using to do your presentation, right? And you might even print that out, or make that available to your attendees. The second slide is what the instructor would use. And the nature of this is essentially a screenshot of the slide with the speaker notes underneath it. So, it would not be easy to manipulate, such as the actual slide deck would be. But it's how – it's what I would use if I were doing the instruction myself. So, there's 16 hours of materials there, plus the 30 minutes for the pre-training webinar, which we'd use to kind of give your internal staff an overview of what's going to go on as you do the training, right?
So, the audience for this would be energy program managers, program implementers, and it teaches the ins and outs of the 50001 Ready Navigator to individuals such as utility efficiency staff and their contracted program implementers to train end-use customers from all sectors. It gives an overview of cohorts, an overview of enterprise-level tracking, discussion of how to promote end-user accomplishments, pre-training homework instruction for coaches – this is what is contained within that 30-minute pre-training. And discussion of planning outcomes you would want to produce. The intent of this training is to ensure future trainers are prepared to answer customers’ questions regarding the ISO 50001 standard and the 50001 Ready tasks. So that's the first one, that’s intended for utility efficiency staff.
The second one, the Ready In-Plant Training for Manufacturers, is the actual slide decks that we have used when we've been doing our in-plant trainings for some of our Better Plants partners. So again, it's a set of two slide decks – it’s the set of three slide decks. This is above - there is one set that you would present, Day 1, Day 2 of a pre-training webinar and then you've got the second one that contains the speaker notes. The energy team leader and members – the audience for this would be the energy team leaders and the members who plan to lead the 50001 Ready implementation at their manufacturing site. The two-day training, with a focus on – has a focus on manufacturing sector and teaches energy managers how to implement the 25 tasks for 50001 Ready using the Ready Navigator. Participants will understand the tasks and how to get started implementing all elements of an energy management system. So again, the first one pretty much for utility program staff. The second one would be probably more targeted for use internally within the company.
So, I'll move on to the next slide, which is the implementation materials. The purpose of these is to prepare participants to implement the 50001 Ready energy management system. So, kind of similar to the previous one, but maybe not connected to specific training events. So, you've got all the information here of the first – the education materials, but more about preparing people to become implementers. So, the distance learning for all organizations is a set of two sets of seven slide decks, each approximately 60 slides long, one set to seven sessions, modeled after the seven dials on the Navigator dashboard, which of course also modeled after the seven sections of the ISO 50001 2018 standard. The second set has the speaker notes. So very similar. And I’ll actually show you in a future slide, the individual slides here. There's about 14 hours of material here. Each slide deck would take about two hours to go through. And this is intended for energy team leaders and members who will lead a 50001 Ready implementation at their site.
The seven sessions teach energy managers how to implement the 25 tasks for 50001 Ready using the Navigator. Participants will gain a better understanding of the tasks and learn how to get started implementing all elements of an energy management system. There are very detailed steps and step by step instructions on implementing the energy management system, using the Navigator as a guide and the slides with students and slides for instructors with notes, which I mentioned before. The second one we created for implementation at federal organizations. We have been working with several different federal agencies, such as NASA, Veterans Affairs, Department of Commerce, Department - offices within the Department of Defense, and even our own Department of Energy Sustainability Office, to familiarize them with the Ready program. We recently did a training with the Department of Justice and they have become the first federal agency to complete all 25 of the Navigator tasks.
So very much like the previous one, you've got a set of seven sessions modeled after the seven sections of the ISO Standard. This is intended as I mentioned for federal energy team leaders, for members at federal agencies who plan to lead a 50001 Ready implementation their site. What makes a difference is that we've included federal tips, guidance – there's some additional slides that reference different federal resources. And so, it's got a few additional materials that would not have relevance to a non-federal agency. But other than that, it's essentially the same slide deck as the one before. So, let's go on to the next slide.
And so how do you get to them, right? I've talked to you all about them. How do you get to them? And the view from the Navigator without logging in, as I mentioned. But if you want to download them, you'll need to log into your account. As you can see here, there is a box to log in. And then after you've logged in, I guess that would be at the next slide. Let’s see - after logging in, on the training page from your menu bar, you'll find all of the training materials listed at the top of the page. To see additional details for each training and to download, you can either select the training from the top bar or you scroll down the page to see them all. Advance to the next slide.
Scrolling through the list and select the training or module for download. And you can select one or all of them. I really would suggest just selecting the ones that are really kind of relevant to you. And then, before you're able to download the file, you just need to review and agree to the terms and conditions, to download zip files at the next slide –. So, you'll need to read through this and then accept this, and then they'll start to download automatically. So, and then, the next slide will show you what you're going to get. So, I downloaded all of them. And as you can see, there's an awful lot of material here. Some of them are zipped. And when you open them up, you'll get all the different files in there. So, you may not want to download everything like I did. I’m going to think that probably two or three of these are all that you need and then looks like at the next slide, if you open up on those zip files, you can see that there are lots of files in there. And here you go. There's – this is the one for the federal organizations with the seven sessions, that are mapped to the seven sections of the ISO standard. And there's a version with, and a version without speaker notes. And so there you go. So let's go to the next slide.
And at this point, we've covered a lot of material. I thought we should stop for questions about these training materials before I go on to the next section, which would give the overview of the recent updates. So, I think most of you are muted right now, you'll need to unmute yourself. And then we can answer your questions or you can type them in the chat and we can answer them there. Let’s see, looking at the chat, is there a time for Q&A? First of all, I think making these training material – ok, yes, there is. Lane, did you have any other question? I see Kip Butler asked if the DOJ achieved Ready recognition. I believe the answer to that is yes, but I’m not positive.
Peter Therkelsen: Ethan, this is Peter from LBNL. I just put a ping out to Paul Sheaffer to find out if DOJ is advancing towards recognition. In the second part of Lane's question, Ethan revolved around what's the typical one facility time commitment to become 50001 Ready recognized. And I'll jump in on that one really quick and say the unhelpful answer of – it entirely depends. A lot of times what we see is, of course, as with any SEM activity or other training, it depends on where the facility is to start with and their level of enthusiasm and engagement. The Navigator itself as well as the training materials are meant to be flexible and adapt to the needs of the end-user as well as the trainer that's providing it. So, while there's no explicit requirement to become Ready recognized for using the Navigator, of course we appreciate it. It helps us understand how the program is being used. But we've seen utility programs adapt the Navigator to use it in a variety of ways, including ones where the end user never sees the Navigator and that the utility is just tracking along with the Navigator to make sure they're covering the concepts that are outlined in 50001 in a simple way. We've seen utilities present the Navigator a few years into an SEM engagement so that the that the end user has a more formal understanding of how they can continue their energy management activities after an SEM program concludes. But all in all, we kind of tend to estimate for a brand-new energy management-oriented end user, given, you know, normal business needs and other hats that people wear – you're looking from anywhere from nine, maybe 12, 18 months. I believe the DOJ training was spread out across 10 months or so.
Ethan Rogers: Thank you
Jay Wrobel: This is Jay, if I can jump in real quick, the DOJ training was three months – we actually had two trainings per month. That was strictly to train both the ATF and the FBI on the 50001 Ready program. The Quantico site for FBI is about two thirds done with the actual Navigator tasks. They were hoping to be done, but with the COVID right now, it's hard to get the kind of final group activities completed. So that's kind of the status of that. It’s also worth noting that the D.C. Sustainable Energy Utility, the electric utility for Washington, D.C., is now offering a training on 50001 Ready – training, right now, federal facilities on the different paths of Navigator and actually walking them through the playbooks and the actual implementation of the program, all sponsored by the DC utility. So, a lot of good activity going on at the fed sites.
Ethan Rogers: Excellent, excellent. Richard Hart asks if the Navigator is updated to the 2018 standard, and the answer is yes, as well as are there case studies of facilities who have completed SEM programs and then transitioned to 50001 Ready? I would say that there are case studies of companies that use the 50001 Ready program, I think that have been part of the utility sector SEM programs. I believe that is - we've got a couple of those. And certainly, in these slide decks –
Peter Therkelsen: Yeah, I’ll jump in and say yeah, there are. And it's on the – it's a little bit convoluted and maybe we can send out the more direct link afterwards on the recognition page for Ready facilities. There is a column for sponsoring or supporting organizations. And typically, if you see a utility or a third-party implementer logo there, that means that they're a 50001 Ready partner. And odds are that case study – it’s based upon their SEM program in they're making use of the Navigator in some capacity.
Ethan Rogers: Another question from Richard Feustel. Is there a list of businesses, organizations or 50001 Ready – you use the word certified – we don't actually certify, we recognize, but yes, everybody that we've recognized is on the web site. And let’s see – oh, Michael Stowe has actually posted the link. Thanks, Michael! Any info – this is from Joy Zims. Any info in trainings on how evaluators have looked at results or SEM programs using 50001 Ready, like lessons learned, processes, etc.? There may be some information within there – we've got several different references that you can download. The Navigator and some of them may have some lessons learned. But I would say in terms of for evaluators, I tend to think of measurement and validation of energy savings. And to that, I think the Superior Energy Performance Program, you’re more likely to find some information that we have on best ways to measure energy savings. But I certainly welcome Peter to weigh in on this, if he has any thoughts on that.
Peter Therkelsen: I have lots of thoughts, because it's definitely a dynamic area of conversation within the kind of SEM and beyond area of evaluation of, you know, if you're focused on the SEM programs, which I imagine would kind of assume the question targeting, and then the utilization of Ready and what it adds or doesn't add. It's an ongoing question, and I wasn't able to participate, but my understanding is this week in some of the CEE meetings around SEM came up of how do you assess what is within the SEM program effect on the savings outcome, that one metric of outcome. And Ready from its conception was not meant to be a savings program alone. It's meant to enhance other savings programs. Being other federal programs like Better Plants or Energy Star or your own SEM programs or just your own corporate activities. And so it is – we mentioned that you can leverage the materials, you can adapt materials to own needs. And we are active in the process of gathering data, trying to understand not only how do people make use of these tools and resources, but also what additionality they do provide in relation to more traditional metrics.
Ethan Rogers: Any other questions on the training materials? So, if you – you may need to star six or something to speak, or again, you can type into the chat. Ok, we'll have another Q&A session at the end. So, if something comes up between now and then, we can answer it then. So, I'm going to go ahead and go on to the next slide and we'll review some of the updates that we've done to the 50001 Ready Navigator. It's been updated to the ISO's high-level structure and aligned the playbook and 25 tasks. And I’m going to get into all of these. We've changed the look of the dashboard and added the multi-site capability, the partner platform information. And, of course, I'll talk a little bit about showcases and case studies. So, let's go to the next slide.
And again, just fairly simple stuff. But when ISO updated the 50001 energy management standard, they made it compatible with a lot of their other management systems. They have what they call their high-level structure. So, terms, definitions. They wanted to make all their management standards compatible. And so, when they did that, we followed in their footsteps and updated the Navigator to reflect that. So, there was some changes in the 25 steps, which I'll talk about in a bit. But there's a greater emphasis on business objectives and a normalization of energy performance improvement that came along with that change. So, the next slide.
If you have a project that is in the old version of the Navigator, you might be interested in seeing how the 25 steps you've gone through compare with the new twenty-five steps. So, we have a crosswalk page. You can go to this and it will show you how things have moved over. And of course, you can migrate your project from the old to the new version. Next slide. So, the seven sections of the new 50001 standard is organized in are now reflected in the dashboard - the context of the organization, leadership, planning, support, operation, performance evaluation and improvement. As you can see, the individual twenty-five tasks are broken out into those. So, in the past, you had a smaller dashboard. This should help you, I think, trek along a little bit better with the standard and the like.
And the other thing that this does, we'll see this in the next slide I believe. We’ll move on to the next slide – is we've refined the resources. We used to have 129 different resources – and they're still there – if you have a favorite one, because here over there on the right, they're still available. But we've kind of run a comb through them and organized them along with the twenty-five tasks to kind of make it a little simpler for you. And let's go on to the next slide. And so, you can print them out and create the playbook.
And this is I think a really nice feature - is that, and this is of course optional. But you can use each of these worksheets alone or you can put them together to create what we call the playbook. You might even put it in a binder. And that's kind of what I would do. And so, this gives you a place to, a way to organize the progress that you're making along with these 25 tasks. And this is a really nice feature – it kind of tidies things up. One of the things that my colleague Pete Langlois likes to point out is that the ISO standard itself, you can read through probably in less than an hour. But it doesn't really tell you how to do – how to implement an energy management system. It just tells you what a compliant energy management system must have. So, this playbook really is I think just that – it's a playbook on how to implement an energy management system that's compatible with the ISO standard. So, I think this is a very nice enhancement to the program. Next slide.
We also created the multi-site capability. Initially, we had – the organizations that we worked with, we anticipated that they would be doing implementation at a single site. But as we got into this, we realized that there were some facility organizations that had multiple sites and much of the activity would be managed out of headquarters, or what we'd call a central office or what the standards referred to as a central function. And so, we wanted to create the ability for the central office to keep track of what was going on at the different facilities and the sign responsibilities and roll up information. You know, in some cases, just about all the work is done at the central office. There aren't a whole lot of people, like in a property management firm, there aren't a whole lot of people at the individual facilities. Most of the activities happen at the central office. And so, this accommodates this really nicely. Of course, this has also proved very useful for utility programs. Once we started the ability to roll up information, we created the potential for our partner platform. So, let's move on to the next slide.
Speaking of the partner platform, we're working with several utilities right now, and the Ready program is just a wonderful tool for them to organize their engagement of their strategic energy management programs, or whatever they call their energy management system implementation assistance programs, because, one, it aligns the activities to the ISO standard. It creates compatibility across programs. So, a program, let's say, in Oregon that's using the Ready program would have compatibility with a program, let's say, in New York. And if both utilities were hiring or contracting the same third-party implementer, there can be a nice standardization there. The utility knows that it gets value out of connection to the ISO standard as well as to a DOE program, but also the companies that are participating in these SEM programs get value. That quite conceivably you could have a company that would have sites spread across multiple service territories, and if all of them were using the Navigator in some fashion, there would be some compatibility there that they could share across their facilities.
So, the partner platform gives a utility program implementer an ability to engage their cohorts on a customized segment, if you will, or a room. It's a term we often use within AMO to create a room for a utility within the Ready platform where they can talk to and engage their cohort participants. And we can customize it for them. We can put their logo on it. There's training material or promotional materials that I’ll show you here in a bit. So, a very nice feature with the Ready program that we hope that a lot of utilities will take advantage of. Let's go to the next slide.
Speaking of promotional materials, we have these ready-made 50001 Ready promotional materials that utility programs can use. And of course, we recognize – once a company has gone through all 25 tasks and self-attested to those tasks, we recognize them. And so, in addition to being recognized by the utility program, they get recognized by the Department of Energy, which is a nice plus. Next slide.
And we create – let’s see, we call attention to this through our Solutions Center. There is a question about, you know, do we create case studies on these things? And of course, the Department of Energy’s Better Buildings, Better Plants program is all about recognizing the accomplishments of companies that are showing leadership in energy efficiency, creating case studies and putting those on our website, the Better Buildings Solutions Center, has truly hundreds of examples of companies implementing best practices, and some of those include, of course, implementation of energy management systems. And so we call these showcases and case studies. So next slide.
Here are some of the partners we already have - VEIC, Focus on Energy – they’re in Wisconsin – Energy Trust of Oregon, Stillwater Energy, Strategic Energy Group, Advanced Energy, NYSERDA, Idaho Power, EnergyRight Solutions, TVA. And I know we're talking to several other utilities at this time. And so, this is just great. I think this really speaks to the usefulness of this program. I've had several different program administrators and implementers tell us that they just really, really love the Ready program and how it helps them with their SEM programs. Next slide.
And of course, we always like to encourage people to get involved in the U.S. TAG to the ISO TC301 standards committee. If you want to have influence on the standards that affect energy management, this is the place to do it. So, we always like to encourage people to do that. I believe there's one last slide, which is the reminder on all the different URL’s that we've mentioned, as well as a chance to ask more questions.
And I see that Ram Kondapi has asked, is there an overlap between the 50001 Ready program and the Better Buildings, Better Plants programs? And yes, there is! So Better Buildings is kind of this umbrella of engagement activities across several different offices within the office, within energy efficiency, renewable energy division of the Department of Energy. So FEMP is there, Building Technology is there, weatherization, so – and then the Better Plants was a program that AMO had created on its own. And when the Better Buildings program was created, we kind of merged the two. So there's a slight difference in some of our materials between what Better Buildings and Better Plants have, but that's related more to some of the history that we had when we created Better Plants, as well as the fact that we're focused on the more energy-intensive industrial sector.
So, I would say that both the energy management team at AMO that I'm part of, and the Build – Better Plants team, we are joined at the hip. We're constantly talking to each other and sharing information about our respective participants. And we encourage everybody that is involved in the Ready program to look at the Better Buildings, Better Plants program and see if that will be a fit for you and vice versa. We're always encouraging our Better Plants partners to invest their time and effort and resources in implementing an energy management system that is compatible with the ISO standard, ideally going for ISO certification and even more ideally, if you're up to it, taking on the Superior Energy Performance M&V protocol and getting certified to that standard. Does that is your question, Ram?
Excellent. Other questions about the changes to the Ready Navigator or to the training materials that we've made available? Well, I'm waiting for people to type questions. I’ll just say that one of the reasons we uploaded all of these materials is we really wanted to push this information out into the marketplace. Over the years, DOE has created an awful lot of training materials. We've run training programs. And one of the things that we've learned is that our ability to scale within the Department of Energy is limited. And I suppose you would say, as it kind of should be, we're somewhat of a wholesale engagement. But working with utility programs, energy service companies, state energy offices, environmental pollution prevention offices – this is where I think the ability to scale comes from, because we ultimately want to reach as many organizations as we can. And we want to impress upon them that the best way to consistently save energy over time and to make sure your efforts today are still helping you tomorrow is to have a systematic way of doing that. And that is to implement an energy management system.
And while not everybody can jump with both feet into an ISO 50001 standard compatible energy management system, they can get most of the way there. And that's what the Navigator’s intended to do. And that's what these training materials are intended to do, is to give you information that allows you to – if you’re a company, to work with your employees, if you are a program implementer, to work with your customers. If you're an energy service company, to train your staff and for them to train their customers or educate their customers. So that's the idea behind this, is we want to kind of pull the chains off of this material and push it out to you, and enable you to run with it and use it in ways that make sense to you, to reach as many people and help as many people as you can.
And it looks like we have a message, let’s see, from Katie Dooley. Is a chart or document that shows the overall connection between ISO 50001, and ISO 9000, and ISO 14000, so people considering ISO 50001 can see how much additional lift will be. And the answer to that is yes, I am sure I have seen that. I'm pretty sure Paul Scheihing created it, but I'm not positive. But I will endeavor to get that to you Katie. And if somebody else knows where it’s at, they're welcome to let me know. But I'm sure I have seen that, so I'll get that to you.
Michael Stowe: Hey, Ethan, this is Michael Stowe – there's a, actually there's a section on each task in the 50001 Navigator that relates back to 9000 and 14000, and there's a cross, there's some crosswalks available, too. Again, I don't remember exactly where, but, yeah, there's definitely a lot of management systems side things that are very similar – management review, internal law, and then corrective actions and so forth that match any management system. And then, of course, the energy part's kind of the difference. Thanks.
Ethan Rogers: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and of course certainly the recent changes that ISO made make that all the better, right? The definitions align better and the structure is better. Yeah, it's a lot easier. One of our recent companies became certified to the Superior Energy Performance 50001 standard. They already had 9000, 14000, and what's the health and safety one, is that 47000? We already had those already in place. And so, they just essentially bolted on 50001 to what they already had. And then when they got certified to ISO 50001, they also, you know, took the additional step and went for SEP 50001. So, it was certainly an additional effort to go for SEP. I'm not going to short sell that, but they felt it was certainly worth it, because as I like to say, the ISO standard tells people, you can trust my energy management system. I have a robust, rigorous energy management system. What the SEP 50001 standard says, is you can trust my M&V numbers. It's robust, it's rigorous and it has all these different checks to it, so that's what the SEP does for you. Oh look, Rajan Shirazi says Annex B of ISO 50001, 2011 standard compares those. So, that’s the old one. Cool, thank you. Thank you for that information.
So, any other questions or comments, things that people would like to share?
Well, I don't want to keep everybody here to the end of the hour, if I don't have to, so I'd like to thank everybody for calling in today and for your continued interest and support of the Department of Energy’s 50001 Ready Navigator program. We very much hope that you'll continue to use it. And as always, feel free to contact myself, Peter Therkelsen, or any of the team here at AMO and LBNL that are supporting our energy management work. And also, thank you to all of you who are out there helping companies implement energy management systems and save energy. At the end of the day, that's what our mission is. So, thank you. And this I guess this concludes today's webinar, and we will see you next quarter. We'll let you know what topic we'll cover then in an update, probably in about a month, we’ll send out an e-mail letting you know when we'll have that webinar and what the topics will be. Thank you. Enjoy the rest of your day.