0:00:00.140,0:00:07.910 we're actually holding our our webinar 0:00:02.570,0:00:09.889 today less than 10 or do the 16th for 0:00:07.910,0:00:12.559 you to fit a full application you need 0:00:09.889,0:00:14.620 to have lower intent submitted by the 0:00:12.559,0:00:20.240 16th and 5:00 p.m. 0:00:14.620,0:00:21.920 proposals or then due by the 7th we will 0:00:20.240,0:00:25.330 provide through your comments back 0:00:21.920,0:00:28.039 through exchange on those presentations 0:00:25.330,0:00:30.250 on those proposals which then can be 0:00:28.039,0:00:36.050 incorporated into your presentations 0:00:30.250,0:00:38.600 which are due on the 30th of March no 0:00:36.050,0:00:42.290 presentations will be presented at the 0:00:38.600,0:00:45.950 review meeting unless we actually have 0:00:42.290,0:00:49.850 received your presentation by the due 0:00:45.950,0:00:53.240 date of March 30th our intent is to 0:00:49.850,0:00:55.850 notify you guys of decisions by April 0:00:53.240,0:00:59.900 29th that's our target date but 0:00:55.850,0:01:03.320 depending on the complexity and the 0:00:59.900,0:01:05.090 comment comments discussions it might be 0:01:03.320,0:01:07.700 a little bit longer than that but we'll 0:01:05.090,0:01:09.290 wait and see and I guess the thing I did 0:01:07.700,0:01:12.380 not talk about is it's going to be held 0:01:09.290,0:01:16.550 on Thursday and Friday April 7th and 8th 0:01:12.380,0:01:21.860 at the Falls Church Marion Marion 0:01:16.550,0:01:26.450 Marriott's as part of the PTO annual 0:01:21.860,0:01:28.550 peer review slash merit review the merit 0:01:26.450,0:01:31.130 review will occur in the latter half of 0:01:28.550,0:01:36.350 the week of the 78 and the peer review 0:01:31.130,0:01:42.140 will take place on the 4th through the 0:01:36.350,0:01:48.020 7th we will take questions at the end of 0:01:42.140,0:01:49.880 the webinar but if we don't get to your 0:01:48.020,0:01:51.979 question or you have additional 0:01:49.880,0:01:54.350 questions after you've read through the 0:01:51.979,0:01:57.799 lab call in more detail please submit 0:01:54.350,0:02:04.220 them to BTO lab call fy17 0:01:57.799,0:02:06.200 at AE do e gov i'd like to remind you 0:02:04.220,0:02:10.959 that this lab call is only addressing 0:02:06.200,0:02:13.760 two program areas this year ET and RBI 0:02:10.959,0:02:15.980 and we'll get into the specific 0:02:13.760,0:02:20.950 topic areas a little bit later on the 0:02:15.980,0:02:23.329 presentation next slide please 0:02:20.950,0:02:28.010 I'm not going to spend much time on this 0:02:23.329,0:02:30.110 these are the goals that the PTO program 0:02:28.010,0:02:33.049 has developed for each of its program 0:02:30.110,0:02:37.970 areas the ones you want to pay attention 0:02:33.049,0:02:42.560 to are in the RBI and et section we do 0:02:37.970,0:02:46.489 look for your proposals and projects to 0:02:42.560,0:02:48.379 align with their overall performance 0:02:46.489,0:02:50.859 goals and objectives so this should 0:02:48.379,0:02:54.889 provide you with some some additional 0:02:50.859,0:02:58.099 context and also the my pp is now out 0:02:54.889,0:02:59.690 and up on our website along with our 0:02:58.099,0:03:06.310 logic models which supervise some more 0:02:59.690,0:03:09.670 context as to our our programs end goals 0:03:06.310,0:03:09.670 next slide please 0:03:09.730,0:03:16.250 all right as you know we're doing this 0:03:12.139,0:03:20.169 lab whole as part of the goe National 0:03:16.250,0:03:23.510 Lab of guiding principles best practices 0:03:20.169,0:03:28.959 where we're required to merit review all 0:03:23.510,0:03:32.449 of our direct funded lab work by FY 17 0:03:28.959,0:03:35.780 what we're looking for is generally 0:03:32.449,0:03:38.389 three year projects as part of these 0:03:35.780,0:03:40.940 proposals I do want to say that if there 0:03:38.389,0:03:42.980 is a proposal that is not three years 0:03:40.940,0:03:44.780 and it makes sense to only get it done 0:03:42.980,0:03:47.269 in one year and that's all the work it 0:03:44.780,0:03:49.310 requires that's perfectly fine 0:03:47.269,0:03:51.109 you just need to indicate that it's not 0:03:49.310,0:03:54.970 something that's going to take three 0:03:51.109,0:03:57.079 years to get done but the general 0:03:54.970,0:03:59.359 principle is that we're looking for 0:03:57.079,0:04:02.090 multi-year three-year projects which 0:03:59.359,0:04:05.680 aligned with the National Lab guiding 0:04:02.090,0:04:08.900 principles next slide please 0:04:05.680,0:04:12.139 okay this is the eligibility slide and 0:04:08.900,0:04:14.780 as you know this is only for xfr d C's 0:04:12.139,0:04:17.720 or Coco's government-owned government 0:04:14.780,0:04:20.539 operated labs there are further 0:04:17.720,0:04:25.539 restrictions that are tied to the core 0:04:20.539,0:04:27.440 enabling capabilities but in both cases 0:04:25.539,0:04:32.890 either core 0:04:27.440,0:04:34.790 and or enabling we encourage our 0:04:32.890,0:04:39.040 proposals to be developed in 0:04:34.790,0:04:42.620 collaboration with other labs and other 0:04:39.040,0:04:44.990 private entities or universities to get 0:04:42.620,0:04:49.960 the breadth of experience and knowledge 0:04:44.990,0:04:56.020 out there next slide please 0:04:49.960,0:05:00.830 this is the most recent BTO lab core 0:04:56.020,0:05:03.140 enabling capability matrix there were 0:05:00.830,0:05:06.080 some slight modifications from last year 0:05:03.140,0:05:15.070 most specifically in the center's 0:05:06.080,0:05:15.070 controls area next slide please 0:05:16.070,0:05:21.770 this slide talks about the application 0:05:18.620,0:05:23.930 process it's a four-step process as I 0:05:21.770,0:05:27.010 discussed earlier there's any great a 0:05:23.930,0:05:31.010 letter of intent a formal proposal a 0:05:27.010,0:05:35.690 PowerPoint deck presentation and then 0:05:31.010,0:05:38.540 the actual oral presentation the length 0:05:35.690,0:05:44.090 of the full applications varies by a 0:05:38.540,0:05:49.010 program area ie T is 15 in length and 0:05:44.090,0:05:52.010 RBI is seven with a corresponding about 0:05:49.010,0:05:55.330 PowerPoint presentation duration of 60 0:05:52.010,0:05:59.750 and 40 minutes respectively 0:05:55.330,0:06:02.630 these are different from last year where 0:05:59.750,0:06:05.720 they were much more limited on the et 0:06:02.630,0:06:09.950 side based on lessons learned and 0:06:05.720,0:06:13.910 feedback from our participants we felt 0:06:09.950,0:06:16.940 the need to have more information and 0:06:13.910,0:06:19.430 more specific topics in the center's 0:06:16.940,0:06:21.640 controls area and marina will get into 0:06:19.430,0:06:25.810 that and more detail she goes over her 0:06:21.640,0:06:30.650 sections next slide please 0:06:25.810,0:06:35.840 this is what we hoped comes in the 0:06:30.650,0:06:38.030 one-page letter of intent very generic 0:06:35.840,0:06:41.360 in terms of the program area the 0:06:38.030,0:06:43.789 subtopic area the title so leave la 0:06:41.360,0:06:46.159 director any kind of partnering which we 0:06:43.789,0:06:48.259 strongly encourage and just a one 0:06:46.159,0:06:52.780 paragraph description of the proposed 0:06:48.259,0:06:54.590 project and as I stated earlier only 0:06:52.780,0:06:58.580 applicants who have submitted the letter 0:06:54.590,0:07:00.650 of intent will be eligible to submit a 0:06:58.580,0:07:04.699 written proposal that will be reviewed 0:07:00.650,0:07:07.400 and commented on and again there are 0:07:04.699,0:07:09.259 difference of page links for the 0:07:07.400,0:07:13.780 technical volumes associated with both 0:07:09.259,0:07:19.250 CET and RBI program we will provide 0:07:13.780,0:07:21.440 through exchanged reviewer comments that 0:07:19.250,0:07:23.539 then can be incorporated into your oral 0:07:21.440,0:07:26.620 presentations and I believe there'll be 0:07:23.539,0:07:29.000 an opportunity for us to provide 0:07:26.620,0:07:31.180 comments through exchange on your actual 0:07:29.000,0:07:33.229 presentation which both sets of 0:07:31.180,0:07:36.849 consequent ooh the decision-making 0:07:33.229,0:07:40.879 process on what proposals will be funded 0:07:36.849,0:07:42.460 as a result of these activities next 0:07:40.879,0:07:44.990 slide please 0:07:42.460,0:07:49.690 this I'm not going to read this this is 0:07:44.990,0:07:52.729 the content and form of a full proposal 0:07:49.690,0:07:55.370 your basic information your page links 0:07:52.729,0:07:59.449 what use your project approach what are 0:07:55.370,0:08:01.180 your resources next slide I do want to 0:07:59.449,0:08:04.009 indicate that on budget information 0:08:01.180,0:08:06.979 under the budget section we should make 0:08:04.009,0:08:11.479 a modification from last year again 0:08:06.979,0:08:15.469 based on participants feedback the 0:08:11.479,0:08:19.539 fieldwork proposal is to be signed at 0:08:15.469,0:08:22.969 the level that the lab deeds appropriate 0:08:19.539,0:08:26.150 we are we are certainly satisfied with 0:08:22.969,0:08:30.050 the lab TM being the icing at Toro Max 0:08:26.150,0:08:35.449 and we only need to complete the budget 0:08:30.050,0:08:39.680 information table on the sf-424a and it 0:08:35.449,0:08:42.829 must be accompanied by the signed fwp 0:08:39.680,0:08:47.709 and again it's the labs discretion as 0:08:42.829,0:08:47.709 it's what level of signature is needed 0:08:47.980,0:08:51.399 upon submission 0:08:52.120,0:08:59.800 next slide please again as I mentioned 0:08:57.190,0:09:02.570 you were only eligible to have your 0:08:59.800,0:09:05.120 PowerPoint presentation presented if you 0:09:02.570,0:09:07.640 submitted by the deadline and that you 0:09:05.120,0:09:14.270 submitted any full written proposal by 0:09:07.640,0:09:16.990 the deadline of March the 7th again the 0:09:14.270,0:09:25.090 duration of the presentation varies by 0:09:16.990,0:09:25.090 program and topic area next slide please 0:09:27.100,0:09:35.090 this is some best practices to consider 0:09:31.610,0:09:36.590 when developing your presentation you're 0:09:35.090,0:09:40.880 going to need to understand and 0:09:36.590,0:09:43.310 incorporate all of the comments that 0:09:40.880,0:09:49.520 were provided based on the written 0:09:43.310,0:09:52.460 proposals and there is a need to be have 0:09:49.520,0:09:57.320 a focus on the review criteria that are 0:09:52.460,0:09:58.790 contained in appendix D and we encourage 0:09:57.320,0:10:04.550 you to use the presentation as an 0:09:58.790,0:10:09.620 opportunity to discuss points and 0:10:04.550,0:10:12.830 details that you might not have had the 0:10:09.620,0:10:17.600 ability to describe in enough detail in 0:10:12.830,0:10:20.510 the written proposals and and again use 0:10:17.600,0:10:22.340 the presentation to kind of address the 0:10:20.510,0:10:25.070 initial concerns identified by the 0:10:22.340,0:10:34.790 reviewers as a result of their review of 0:10:25.070,0:10:37.910 your written proposal next slide making 0:10:34.790,0:10:41.330 the oral presentation again it's going 0:10:37.910,0:10:44.750 to be conducted as part of the PTO 0:10:41.330,0:10:50.810 annual peer review being held the week 0:10:44.750,0:10:55.940 of April 4th at the false Turks Marriott 0:10:50.810,0:10:58.310 you will need to sign up for this merit 0:10:55.940,0:11:03.470 review session the merit of you session 0:10:58.310,0:11:05.329 will be open only to the reviewers and 0:11:03.470,0:11:07.489 the proposal 0:11:05.329,0:11:12.220 presenters it would not be open to the 0:11:07.489,0:11:15.799 public as will the first part of the 0:11:12.220,0:11:23.209 week which is focused on the BTO peer 0:11:15.799,0:11:26.059 review next slide I talked about our 0:11:23.209,0:11:30.529 intent to provide funding decisions by 0:11:26.059,0:11:33.529 April 29th that will then allow us to 0:11:30.529,0:11:41.119 work these into the preparation of our 0:11:33.529,0:11:44.779 FY 17 a o P and that includes the 0:11:41.119,0:11:48.980 development of a full multi-year 0:11:44.779,0:11:53.149 statement of work based on any feedback 0:11:48.980,0:11:56.119 and decisions by the deciding parties 0:11:53.149,0:12:00.040 and negotiations as a result of 0:11:56.119,0:12:03.049 developing these statements of work and 0:12:00.040,0:12:05.569 again you'll see that there is a note on 0:12:03.049,0:12:07.759 that last slide you just go back that we 0:12:05.569,0:12:12.049 do provide some max funding levels in 0:12:07.759,0:12:15.350 the topic areas but these are just max 0:12:12.049,0:12:20.569 funding levels and are subject to our 0:12:15.350,0:12:24.980 annual appropriations based on the 0:12:20.569,0:12:28.249 ultimate funds that we receive go ahead 0:12:24.980,0:12:31.519 next slide here are the topics of 0:12:28.249,0:12:35.589 interest ets is focused exclusively on 0:12:31.519,0:12:38.989 centers controls and RBI has identified 0:12:35.589,0:12:40.699 there are three areas as high 0:12:38.989,0:12:43.489 performance moisture managed envelope 0:12:40.699,0:12:46.309 solutions optical culprit for low load 0:12:43.489,0:12:52.369 homes and optimal ventilation and or air 0:12:46.309,0:12:57.949 quality solutions XY having said that I 0:12:52.369,0:13:02.209 will turn it over to the eet of TDM in 0:12:57.949,0:13:04.459 the such as controls area to us watch 0:13:02.209,0:13:07.519 the next for the presentation all right 0:13:04.459,0:13:10.759 so as was mentioned before within 0:13:07.519,0:13:13.100 emerging technologies or eighty we will 0:13:10.759,0:13:16.189 be merit reviewing the sensors and 0:13:13.100,0:13:19.100 controls sub program and within the sub 0:13:16.189,0:13:21.230 program there are three topic area 0:13:19.100,0:13:23.330 that we are seeking proposals for for 0:13:21.230,0:13:26.690 direct lab work 0:13:23.330,0:13:29.120 the total anticipated annual budget for 0:13:26.690,0:13:32.150 the sub program is two million dollars 0:13:29.120,0:13:35.060 again that's a subject to appropriations 0:13:32.150,0:13:39.320 as Joann mentioned and individual 0:13:35.060,0:13:41.630 proposals are being sought for in within 0:13:39.320,0:13:49.130 each topic area depending on the 0:13:41.630,0:13:52.310 proposal applicants can choose to 0:13:49.130,0:13:55.310 propose between five hundred thousand 0:13:52.310,0:13:57.770 and two million dollars per year worth 0:13:55.310,0:14:00.410 of funding and that is up to the 0:13:57.770,0:14:03.380 applicant and the scope of work that's 0:14:00.410,0:14:07.390 being proposed it's also important to 0:14:03.380,0:14:10.540 note that depending on the topic areas 0:14:07.390,0:14:13.400 submitted and applications VTO may issue 0:14:10.540,0:14:17.380 Awards in one multiple or none of the 0:14:13.400,0:14:19.760 three topic areas and even though 0:14:17.380,0:14:22.640 individual proposals are being sought 0:14:19.760,0:14:26.780 for each topic area the proposals 0:14:22.640,0:14:29.420 themselves should look to address how 0:14:26.780,0:14:32.120 the project will enable achieving the 0:14:29.420,0:14:34.010 goals of the entire sub program it's 0:14:32.120,0:14:37.430 also important to know that each lab can 0:14:34.010,0:14:42.400 apply to more than one topic area as the 0:14:37.430,0:14:46.760 lead however each topic area requires a 0:14:42.400,0:14:49.250 separate proposal and labs are strongly 0:14:46.760,0:14:51.560 encouraged to partner with each other as 0:14:49.250,0:14:55.070 well as with external organizations in 0:14:51.560,0:14:57.800 order to incorporate the capabilities 0:14:55.070,0:15:00.230 and facilities that are needed to meet 0:14:57.800,0:15:04.480 the goals and objectives specified and 0:15:00.230,0:15:07.910 to maximize impacts and all applicants 0:15:04.480,0:15:10.580 are not familiar with the ET portfolio 0:15:07.910,0:15:12.110 or strongly encouraged to go to our 0:15:10.580,0:15:13.790 website and learn more about the 0:15:12.110,0:15:16.130 projects both within such source and 0:15:13.790,0:15:20.930 controls and our other related sub 0:15:16.130,0:15:22.490 programs next slide and dislike is a 0:15:20.930,0:15:24.110 brief overview of the sensors and 0:15:22.490,0:15:27.190 control sub program again this 0:15:24.110,0:15:31.020 information is available both within the 0:15:27.190,0:15:33.209 lab call itself as well as 0:15:31.020,0:15:35.279 within our website where there's a 0:15:33.209,0:15:40.380 sampling of current projects that would 0:15:35.279,0:15:42.779 work our funding in terms of software we 0:15:40.380,0:15:46.080 invest in open source solutions so we 0:15:42.779,0:15:48.720 have that requirement within the lab 0:15:46.080,0:15:51.660 call and that's intended to accelerate 0:15:48.720,0:15:54.390 market penetration of these technologies 0:15:51.660,0:15:56.220 and address the key requirement for 0:15:54.390,0:15:58.320 sensing and monitoring and commercial 0:15:56.220,0:16:00.690 and residential buildings namely 0:15:58.320,0:16:02.010 interoperability scalability ease of 0:16:00.690,0:16:05.370 deployment availability and 0:16:02.010,0:16:06.899 affordability and so the topics that 0:16:05.370,0:16:09.390 have been selected for this caller 0:16:06.899,0:16:12.420 intended to augment and build off of ETS 0:16:09.390,0:16:17.390 existing portfolio as well as complement 0:16:12.420,0:16:20.910 our current FOA topics in order to 0:16:17.390,0:16:23.010 achieve our goals of enabling affordable 0:16:20.910,0:16:24.899 and low cost manufacturing installation 0:16:23.010,0:16:27.990 and ongoing operation of sensors and 0:16:24.899,0:16:30.270 controls within buildings it's also 0:16:27.990,0:16:32.100 important to note that applicants should 0:16:30.270,0:16:33.839 include performance metrics and targets 0:16:32.100,0:16:37.170 specific to the proposed approach 0:16:33.839,0:16:39.870 targeted within a topic area as well as 0:16:37.170,0:16:42.630 incorporate smart milestones by which 0:16:39.870,0:16:44.970 project progress will be assessed during 0:16:42.630,0:16:50.430 the lifetime of the project its selected 0:16:44.970,0:16:52.290 next slide we have three topic areas 0:16:50.430,0:16:54.959 with brief summaries in this slide 0:16:52.290,0:16:57.810 there's more information in each topic 0:16:54.959,0:17:00.209 area within the lab call itself topic 0:16:57.810,0:17:02.790 area one is focused on occupant driven 0:17:00.209,0:17:05.040 sensing and controls this includes both 0:17:02.790,0:17:07.620 improvements to occupants the detection 0:17:05.040,0:17:09.839 and counting as well as incorporating 0:17:07.620,0:17:13.679 that information to optimize control 0:17:09.839,0:17:15.600 strategies topic 2 is focused on a 0:17:13.679,0:17:19.260 building equipment submetering 0:17:15.600,0:17:22.559 this topic area is seeking some metering 0:17:19.260,0:17:24.720 solutions for building equipment systems 0:17:22.559,0:17:26.910 and plug loads in order to enable 0:17:24.720,0:17:30.050 monitoring base commissioning to 0:17:26.910,0:17:33.809 optimize building operations and to 0:17:30.050,0:17:36.620 bring cost competitive solutions that 0:17:33.809,0:17:40.370 can then lead to further deployment of 0:17:36.620,0:17:42.809 some metering and topic area 3 is 0:17:40.370,0:17:44.230 adaptive in all tolerant building 0:17:42.809,0:17:46.950 controls in the 0:17:44.230,0:17:49.870 topic area we're looking at 0:17:46.950,0:17:51.899 self-correcting control solutions either 0:17:49.870,0:17:54.760 through data-driven or model driven 0:17:51.899,0:17:57.639 adaptive control depending on the 0:17:54.760,0:17:59.559 proposal with the intent of optimizing 0:17:57.639,0:18:02.500 building operation in response to 0:17:59.559,0:18:04.480 environmental changes as well as the 0:18:02.500,0:18:07.750 manifestation of faults and failures in 0:18:04.480,0:18:09.519 building operation and equipment lot of 0:18:07.750,0:18:13.539 performers are expected to coordinate 0:18:09.519,0:18:17.399 closely with with each other as well as 0:18:13.539,0:18:21.399 with our other awardees and this will 0:18:17.399,0:18:24.309 move forward if projects proposals are 0:18:21.399,0:18:28.799 selected for negotiation and then for 0:18:24.309,0:18:31.929 award and in particular given the 0:18:28.799,0:18:36.100 technology space that sensors and 0:18:31.929,0:18:39.010 controls is in we encourage research 0:18:36.100,0:18:41.470 collaborations that take the form or 0:18:39.010,0:18:44.559 result in creative by the end of the 0:18:41.470,0:18:46.179 project period in addition to that given 0:18:44.559,0:18:50.409 the cross-cutting nature of sensors and 0:18:46.179,0:18:54.460 controls we also encourage purpose our 0:18:50.409,0:18:56.409 lab performers to maintain establish and 0:18:54.460,0:18:58.419 maintain excellent communication with 0:18:56.409,0:19:02.289 their counterparts and with our 0:18:58.419,0:19:04.990 counterparts within et as well as with 0:19:02.289,0:19:08.919 the deployment programs in the CBI and 0:19:04.990,0:19:13.110 RBI and with that slide we can move over 0:19:08.919,0:19:13.110 to residential buildings integration 0:19:24.029,0:19:29.279 Eric if you're on the line I've one 0:19:26.139,0:19:29.279 meaty we should be good to go 0:19:42.799,0:19:56.129 all right hey I'm Eric Worley hello I'm 0:19:52.889,0:20:00.960 sorry I'm sorry I had two different 0:19:56.129,0:20:03.749 mutes going on and I'm my apologies okay 0:20:00.960,0:20:06.239 so worried networks is Aaron twirling 0:20:03.749,0:20:09.479 Thank You Joanne um this is Eric 0:20:06.239,0:20:14.249 whirling with building America and the 0:20:09.479,0:20:16.229 only part of this RBI lab call is 0:20:14.249,0:20:18.899 related to building America so David 0:20:16.229,0:20:22.440 asked me to provide the presentation 0:20:18.899,0:20:24.539 today it's very similar to the structure 0:20:22.440,0:20:26.789 that marina just went over for et so 0:20:24.539,0:20:29.340 I'll just dive right into it a few that 0:20:26.789,0:20:31.080 I won't read most of this slide the most 0:20:29.340,0:20:35.570 important part this is really just 0:20:31.080,0:20:38.849 background about the RBI mission and 0:20:35.570,0:20:41.099 goals the third goal it's an important 0:20:38.849,0:20:43.109 one though and it has to do with our 0:20:41.099,0:20:46.489 recently published building America 0:20:43.109,0:20:50.609 research to market plan this is the 0:20:46.489,0:20:53.759 primary focus of this lab call and work 0:20:50.609,0:20:56.159 that we hope to fund as a result so I 0:20:53.759,0:20:58.679 urge everyone including those who are 0:20:56.159,0:21:01.259 familiar with this already to dig out 0:20:58.679,0:21:03.599 the building America research to market 0:21:01.259,0:21:06.210 plan I'm not showing a link here on the 0:21:03.599,0:21:08.340 slide but it's very easy to find it's on 0:21:06.210,0:21:10.259 the building america web page where you 0:21:08.340,0:21:12.419 can google directly that that may 0:21:10.259,0:21:16.729 actually be not an active link i'm not 0:21:12.419,0:21:16.729 sure so next slide please 0:21:20.150,0:21:27.600 the three topic areas that are included 0:21:24.630,0:21:30.450 in the RBI portion of the lab call are 0:21:27.600,0:21:34.020 listed here again and they correspond 0:21:30.450,0:21:36.240 directly to the three researched market 0:21:34.020,0:21:39.420 roadmaps that are outlined in detail in 0:21:36.240,0:21:41.730 that research to market plan that we 0:21:39.420,0:21:43.530 have published on on the website so the 0:21:41.730,0:21:45.410 three are of course high performance 0:21:43.530,0:21:47.990 moisture managed envelope solutions 0:21:45.410,0:21:50.400 optimal comfort for low load homes 0:21:47.990,0:21:53.420 optimal ventilation and indoor air 0:21:50.400,0:21:55.950 quality solutions each we're expecting 0:21:53.420,0:21:59.040 proposals for each one of those three 0:21:55.950,0:22:03.720 and the type of work that we expect to 0:21:59.040,0:22:05.540 fund there will be two two primary 0:22:03.720,0:22:08.780 different types of activities one is 0:22:05.540,0:22:14.100 specific technical support that the lab 0:22:08.780,0:22:16.770 proposing labs are best suited for two 0:22:14.100,0:22:19.400 that support specific objectives in the 0:22:16.770,0:22:22.890 respective roadmap and the second is 0:22:19.400,0:22:26.970 general programmatic support to do e for 0:22:22.890,0:22:29.160 managing the overall roadmap itself 0:22:26.970,0:22:31.440 including coordination direct and 0:22:29.160,0:22:34.080 technical assistance as well as 0:22:31.440,0:22:36.060 analytical support directly to do e and 0:22:34.080,0:22:40.860 the building America teams that have won 0:22:36.060,0:22:46.080 awards that support the roadmap so I'm 0:22:40.860,0:22:48.830 hoping that was clear we in this lab 0:22:46.080,0:22:52.650 Hall currently are not planning to 0:22:48.830,0:22:55.260 accept any proposals that don't relate 0:22:52.650,0:22:58.290 specifically to these three roadmaps so 0:22:55.260,0:23:01.470 this is a very targeted missed target 0:22:58.290,0:23:04.710 lab call this year the total anticipated 0:23:01.470,0:23:08.130 funding across the three is 2.5 million 0:23:04.710,0:23:10.020 dollars per year we're assuming flat but 0:23:08.130,0:23:16.140 who knows what will happen in future 0:23:10.020,0:23:20.160 budgets and we anticipate making three 0:23:16.140,0:23:23.630 Awards but I don't one for each topic 0:23:20.160,0:23:25.980 area but I I don't think we've 0:23:23.630,0:23:27.750 specifically limited ourselves to that 0:23:25.980,0:23:32.610 depending on what we get in the way / 0:23:27.750,0:23:33.180 posts and I believe that's all it's 0:23:32.610,0:23:37.500 important 0:23:33.180,0:23:40.920 slide next slide please so here's a 0:23:37.500,0:23:42.960 brief summary of the objectives of each 0:23:40.920,0:23:46.020 of the three roadmaps which correspond 0:23:42.960,0:23:47.730 to the three topic areas again I'm not 0:23:46.020,0:23:51.030 going to read these there is a great 0:23:47.730,0:23:53.400 deal more information about this in the 0:23:51.030,0:23:56.310 researched market plan as I mentioned 0:23:53.400,0:24:00.000 each one of them includes specific 0:23:56.310,0:24:04.890 objectives our intent and strategy 0:24:00.000,0:24:08.430 includes project support that our 0:24:04.890,0:24:11.460 projects I'm sorry that that are 0:24:08.430,0:24:13.440 well-suited for industry partnerships 0:24:11.460,0:24:16.350 such as the building America team foa's 0:24:13.440,0:24:21.600 and then there are some that are better 0:24:16.350,0:24:24.300 suited for lab activities these are not 0:24:21.600,0:24:26.400 always articulated in the roadmap but I 0:24:24.300,0:24:29.700 think people familiar with the building 0:24:26.400,0:24:33.000 America activities can probably discern 0:24:29.700,0:24:35.760 from what's in the plan which activities 0:24:33.000,0:24:37.920 make the most sense for laboratories to 0:24:35.760,0:24:40.350 do and which ones are more targeted at 0:24:37.920,0:24:42.480 specific solutions and therefore make 0:24:40.350,0:24:45.150 more sense for the and for the teams to 0:24:42.480,0:24:49.110 do the overall intent of all of this is 0:24:45.150,0:24:51.120 that it will be an integrated strategy 0:24:49.110,0:24:52.830 to address the challenges that are 0:24:51.120,0:24:53.580 articulated in each one of those three 0:24:52.830,0:24:56.730 roadmaps 0:24:53.580,0:24:58.710 and that will put the best lab 0:24:56.730,0:25:01.260 activities together with the best 0:24:58.710,0:25:05.340 industry partnership activities to 0:25:01.260,0:25:08.580 address all of the roadmap challenges 0:25:05.340,0:25:10.980 and objectives as efficiently 0:25:08.580,0:25:16.580 effectively and quickly as we can to 0:25:10.980,0:25:20.430 address our RBI market goals for impact 0:25:16.580,0:25:22.400 so that's in a nutshell what I have I am 0:25:20.430,0:25:25.080 Not sure I don't think I have any other 0:25:22.400,0:25:26.510 slides could you advance the slide 0:25:25.080,0:25:29.430 please 0:25:26.510,0:25:32.490 right okay so I guess this is back to 0:25:29.430,0:25:33.170 Joanne for discussing the merit review 0:25:32.490,0:25:37.320 criteria 0:25:33.170,0:25:41.340 yes thanks Eric um again we'll go over 0:25:37.320,0:25:45.690 this pretty quickly as you can see 0:25:41.340,0:25:47.110 criteria one is somewhere an impact and 0:25:45.690,0:25:50.590 what that really asks us to 0:25:47.110,0:25:54.039 to think about what areas program 0:25:50.590,0:25:56.470 barriers are going to be addressing and 0:25:54.039,0:25:59.710 how that continues to our overall goals 0:25:56.470,0:26:02.169 and how that impacts the market and how 0:25:59.710,0:26:04.210 it makes sense in the market and for 0:26:02.169,0:26:06.970 deployment activities we were looking 0:26:04.210,0:26:09.490 for you to look at what is the distinct 0:26:06.970,0:26:14.080 clear path to get those things in the 0:26:09.490,0:26:16.750 market we'd also ask you to look at the 0:26:14.080,0:26:20.470 Eee re questions particularly one 0:26:16.750,0:26:24.960 through three that kind of align with 0:26:20.470,0:26:27.970 these other areas I just discussed so 0:26:24.960,0:26:30.639 criteria one which is 50% is technical 0:26:27.970,0:26:32.519 merit innovation and impact next slide 0:26:30.639,0:26:35.980 please 0:26:32.519,0:26:38.340 the second criteria is a project 0:26:35.980,0:26:41.860 approach with a weight of 30 percent 0:26:38.340,0:26:43.690 we're looking here to understand and see 0:26:41.860,0:26:48.610 how your work plan makes sense that you 0:26:43.690,0:26:53.200 do have the smart critical no gogo 0:26:48.610,0:26:55.419 milestones looking for the openness 0:26:53.200,0:26:57.130 factor and the clarity of roles and 0:26:55.419,0:26:59.980 responsibilities so we know how we're 0:26:57.130,0:27:04.419 going to actually get to and can see how 0:26:59.980,0:27:05.620 we're going to reach the outcome and way 0:27:04.419,0:27:07.870 to which the projects identified 0:27:05.620,0:27:10.320 addresses the current and potential 0:27:07.870,0:27:13.630 opportunities to move our technologies 0:27:10.320,0:27:15.250 either further from a research Rd 0:27:13.630,0:27:18.090 perspective or from a market 0:27:15.250,0:27:20.980 transformation perspective so this is 0:27:18.090,0:27:26.980 criterion 2 is project approach weight 0:27:20.980,0:27:31.240 30% criteria 3 team and resources we 0:27:26.980,0:27:34.539 wake 20% we want to get an understanding 0:27:31.240,0:27:37.450 and and see how you view and have this 0:27:34.539,0:27:38.950 project level leverages of the core 0:27:37.450,0:27:45.460 enabling capabilities that we've 0:27:38.950,0:27:47.200 identified how they the PI supports 0:27:45.460,0:27:49.899 there has necessary qualifications and 0:27:47.200,0:27:51.490 expertise and what kind of time care 0:27:49.899,0:27:53.380 that he has to the team so that we if we 0:27:51.490,0:27:57.880 can move this projects across the the N 0:27:53.380,0:27:59.770 line if you need facilities or or test 0:27:57.880,0:28:00.940 labs to do your work if they've 0:27:59.770,0:28:05.470 identified and 0:28:00.940,0:28:07.509 have access to them and again we're 0:28:05.470,0:28:10.690 looking for that interlab collaboration 0:28:07.509,0:28:13.029 and the reasonableness of the budget and 0:28:10.690,0:28:14.950 the spend plan for the proposed project 0:28:13.029,0:28:17.019 and this goes back to the earlier 0:28:14.950,0:28:19.809 statement that if it is just a one-year 0:28:17.019,0:28:22.720 project that's just making a one-year 0:28:19.809,0:28:24.970 project and with a definite outcome at 0:28:22.720,0:28:28.830 the end of that year as opposed to 0:28:24.970,0:28:31.330 making in a two or three year project 0:28:28.830,0:28:33.249 I'm going to let marina talk about the 0:28:31.330,0:28:37.690 open source software distribution plan 0:28:33.249,0:28:39.909 and so this is the the same as the 0:28:37.690,0:28:44.200 requirement from last year's lab call 0:28:39.909,0:28:47.979 and as well as our foe of any software 0:28:44.200,0:28:51.369 that's being developed in any of the 0:28:47.979,0:28:54.759 topic areas needs to have an open-source 0:28:51.369,0:28:58.119 software distribution plan submitted as 0:28:54.759,0:28:59.889 part of the proposal the requirements 0:28:58.119,0:29:02.619 for the plan are listed on this slide 0:28:59.889,0:29:05.440 below and information is also provided 0:29:02.619,0:29:09.399 in the lab hall itself and there are 0:29:05.440,0:29:13.299 also a sample of open source software 0:29:09.399,0:29:16.779 plans that applicants can choose from in 0:29:13.299,0:29:20.409 addition to that ET proposals that are 0:29:16.779,0:29:22.720 submit that our software focus also 0:29:20.409,0:29:25.239 needs to submit an interoperability plan 0:29:22.720,0:29:26.729 and we have more information on the 0:29:25.239,0:29:30.519 requirements for the interoperability 0:29:26.729,0:29:33.519 plan as a minimum requirement where 0:29:30.519,0:29:35.259 possible also all devices to be 0:29:33.519,0:29:37.479 controlled to be accessed by open 0:29:35.259,0:29:39.729 communication standards and using open 0:29:37.479,0:29:42.849 or consensus consensus based information 0:29:39.729,0:29:44.769 and data standards so it's important to 0:29:42.849,0:29:50.139 know both of these requirements 0:29:44.769,0:29:54.149 pertaining to software okay thank you 0:29:50.139,0:29:58.450 that's the last call call overview 0:29:54.149,0:30:01.929 please go to the lab call for all 0:29:58.450,0:30:04.739 specific requirements and don't forget 0:30:01.929,0:30:09.309 to complete your registration 0:30:04.739,0:30:13.539 ASAP and you can download the merit 0:30:09.309,0:30:14.840 review lab call at AER e exchange energy 0:30:13.539,0:30:18.169 gov 0:30:14.840,0:30:21.830 and again if you have any questions that 0:30:18.169,0:30:26.899 we do not are unable to address in this 0:30:21.830,0:30:29.840 session please go to bt o lab call fy17 0:30:26.899,0:30:33.639 a te d re gov and you will get a 0:30:29.840,0:30:36.440 response back as soon as possible 0:30:33.639,0:30:40.610 having said that Oh a it's Jeremiah to 0:30:36.440,0:30:44.059 open up the floor and address any 0:30:40.610,0:30:49.429 questions we'll do about 15-20 minutes 0:30:44.059,0:30:55.909 of questions and the were at at that 0:30:49.429,0:30:58.820 point in terms of time so any questions 0:30:55.909,0:31:00.470 so I'll ask if you have a question to 0:30:58.820,0:31:02.090 either type in the question and submit 0:31:00.470,0:31:03.350 it and I'll unmute you or if you raise 0:31:02.090,0:31:06.350 your hand using the webinar tool I 0:31:03.350,0:31:07.850 cannot meet you that way for any of us I 0:31:06.350,0:31:18.139 just needed you for your question about 0:31:07.850,0:31:20.419 the sense of control roadmap I can I 0:31:18.139,0:31:22.279 can't read it so the question was I'm 0:31:20.419,0:31:24.950 just wondering if there is a draft 0:31:22.279,0:31:28.369 roadmap reference for SNC to follow the 0:31:24.950,0:31:32.779 defined specific defined can be a bunch 0:31:28.369,0:31:40.460 of tools a little pops up sorry if we're 0:31:32.779,0:31:43.309 trying to follow the define technical 0:31:40.460,0:31:46.999 but specific slash goals so to answer 0:31:43.309,0:31:49.580 that question a when a draft roadmap is 0:31:46.999,0:31:52.940 available it will be publicly available 0:31:49.580,0:31:55.879 for all applicants to review that being 0:31:52.940,0:31:58.100 said in the interim the topic areas 0:31:55.879,0:32:00.049 themselves have descriptions that 0:31:58.100,0:32:04.249 include metrics and targets associated 0:32:00.049,0:32:07.399 with them and proposals should be 0:32:04.249,0:32:17.450 targeted to meet those specification 0:32:07.399,0:32:19.850 within the stated project area I think 0:32:17.450,0:32:21.830 the next question is worse to career the 0:32:19.850,0:32:24.889 the next question is is the minimum 0:32:21.830,0:32:27.440 recommended funding amount 500 K in 0:32:24.889,0:32:29.210 other words would a project for 200k be 0:32:27.440,0:32:31.970 appropriate for submissions so the 0:32:29.210,0:32:33.980 answer to that question is no a 200k 0:32:31.970,0:32:36.500 project would not be appropriate for 0:32:33.980,0:32:41.960 submission we want to the greatest 0:32:36.500,0:32:44.570 extent possible fund projects that have 0:32:41.960,0:32:47.539 sufficient resources to make a maximum 0:32:44.570,0:32:50.149 impact and therefore our funding amount 0:32:47.539,0:32:53.090 is between 500k and 2 million dollars 0:32:50.149,0:32:55.970 and just took a go into that that's 0:32:53.090,0:33:00.070 consistent with the overall guiding 0:32:55.970,0:33:03.710 principles for the AOP development where 0:33:00.070,0:33:05.779 dave has kind of encouraged us to go 0:33:03.710,0:33:08.179 touch from a million to 3 million 0:33:05.779,0:33:11.450 dollars in projects so maria is already 0:33:08.179,0:33:16.340 going below that in terms of identifying 0:33:11.450,0:33:20.379 a floor of 500k so we need to be mindful 0:33:16.340,0:33:24.139 of the the impact and the resources to 0:33:20.379,0:33:28.789 to get something across the finish line 0:33:24.139,0:33:32.090 that is going to be impactful the next 0:33:28.789,0:33:35.450 question I believe is an RBI question 0:33:32.090,0:33:38.179 can you see it Eric you know I can read 0:33:35.450,0:33:41.240 the question to you Eric the question is 0:33:38.179,0:33:45.799 can you clarify which labs are eligible 0:33:41.240,0:33:48.590 to prime proposals for RBI topics 1 2 & 0:33:45.799,0:33:50.359 3 the eligibility language associated 0:33:48.590,0:33:53.600 with the capability measures on page 6 0:33:50.359,0:33:55.279 is a bit confusing topic areas design is 0:33:53.600,0:33:57.679 a core enabling ability will be 0:33:55.279,0:34:00.019 restricting pros from prime recipients 0:33:57.679,0:34:02.090 from the respective labs what is meant 0:34:00.019,0:34:04.039 by topic areas designated as core and 0:34:02.090,0:34:06.529 enabling capabilities are these are 0:34:04.039,0:34:08.569 topic areas in Appendix B where is it 0:34:06.529,0:34:11.030 designated where the designated whether 0:34:08.569,0:34:13.760 these topic areas are core and enabling 0:34:11.030,0:34:17.109 capabilities I can take an initial size 0:34:13.760,0:34:21.049 of Eric and then you can follow up and 0:34:17.109,0:34:22.879 press me where I where I did speak the 0:34:21.049,0:34:25.520 core enabling capabilities are 0:34:22.879,0:34:27.270 identified in the lab call and also on 0:34:25.520,0:34:29.250 page 6 0:34:27.270,0:34:33.980 of the slide presentation that we just 0:34:29.250,0:34:38.850 put back up and as you can see there are 0:34:33.980,0:34:42.540 there's one core in the residential IAQ 0:34:38.850,0:34:49.520 ventilation lie and that insides with 0:34:42.540,0:34:53.190 lvl I will defer to David and Eric as to 0:34:49.520,0:34:55.409 whether that is one of the three topic 0:34:53.190,0:34:57.510 areas identified but you'll see in the 0:34:55.409,0:35:00.660 other lines that those enabling 0:34:57.510,0:35:04.820 capabilities those are the only labs 0:35:00.660,0:35:09.570 that can be primed in submitting 0:35:04.820,0:35:11.900 proposals to address those areas in the 0:35:09.570,0:35:16.100 building integration and solution 0:35:11.900,0:35:20.450 section of the matrix so I will turn to 0:35:16.100,0:35:24.840 David and Eric to address how those 0:35:20.450,0:35:29.040 three topic areas crosswalk to that 0:35:24.840,0:35:31.920 matrix right so this is Eric if you 0:35:29.040,0:35:33.810 hopefully to hear me my interpretation 0:35:31.920,0:35:36.720 of I would say the same thing 0:35:33.810,0:35:40.609 support what Joanne just mentioned and 0:35:36.720,0:35:43.770 say that as I look at this matrix and 0:35:40.609,0:35:47.190 the specific topic areas that we've 0:35:43.770,0:35:50.040 identified the only one of the three 0:35:47.190,0:35:56.670 topic areas that has any restriction 0:35:50.040,0:35:59.670 here with regards to that well regarding 0:35:56.670,0:36:02.340 the four labs that are identified as 0:35:59.670,0:36:05.160 having por el festival capabilities the 0:36:02.340,0:36:09.840 one restriction that jumps out at me is 0:36:05.160,0:36:13.710 that LDL has a core capability in that 0:36:09.840,0:36:17.730 residual IQ in ventilation space and 0:36:13.710,0:36:21.000 that is the primary topic of our final 0:36:17.730,0:36:23.940 your focus of topic 3 so my 0:36:21.000,0:36:26.910 interpretation is the topic that LDL is 0:36:23.940,0:36:30.570 the only level to fit as a prime 0:36:26.910,0:36:33.030 recipient for that particular topic but 0:36:30.570,0:36:37.340 no such restriction exists for the other 0:36:33.030,0:36:39.119 two topics and that as far as 0:36:37.340,0:36:40.490 uncomfortable going with this 0:36:39.119,0:36:43.130 requirement 0:36:40.490,0:36:46.100 with an odd question all right this is 0:36:43.130,0:36:52.430 Joann I totally agree with your 0:36:46.100,0:36:54.380 interpretation of that I think LBNL can 0:36:52.430,0:36:55.430 be the only prime recipient then for 0:36:54.380,0:36:58.900 topic 3 0:36:55.430,0:37:02.030 but they can partner with other labs and 0:36:58.900,0:37:04.160 or other labs can reach out to them to 0:37:02.030,0:37:08.180 partner from or provide partnering 0:37:04.160,0:37:15.500 opportunities and then the topics 2 & 3 0:37:08.180,0:37:18.140 are open to all laps or 1 & 2 right I'm 0:37:15.500,0:37:24.880 sorry 1 & 2 Eric I protest right well 0:37:18.140,0:37:27.500 that's good okay so the next question is 0:37:24.880,0:37:30.590 sentence controls and I'll have marina 0:37:27.500,0:37:32.869 read it and add row the question is do 0:37:30.590,0:37:35.420 any of the SP topics require this 0:37:32.869,0:37:37.850 minilab to have them merging or core 0:37:35.420,0:37:42.140 capability now referring to the matrix 0:37:37.850,0:37:45.710 we consider capabilities designated for 0:37:42.140,0:37:48.590 sensors - volume manufacturing as well 0:37:45.710,0:37:51.740 as the interoperable execution platform 0:37:48.590,0:37:53.750 for control which refers to Voltron this 0:37:51.740,0:37:55.220 refers to the development and 0:37:53.750,0:37:56.920 maintenance of the platform that does 0:37:55.220,0:38:00.410 not include application development 0:37:56.920,0:38:04.400 utilizing the platform itself therefore 0:38:00.410,0:38:08.060 as the topic areas are written all three 0:38:04.400,0:38:10.790 topic areas are open to its lab line as 0:38:08.060,0:38:14.450 the prime with the exception of if 0:38:10.790,0:38:17.030 someone is proposing specifically 0:38:14.450,0:38:19.609 something around sensors that's focused 0:38:17.030,0:38:24.410 on scale-up for volume manufacturing or 0:38:19.609,0:38:25.970 if it's maintenance development or 0:38:24.410,0:38:28.210 maintenance of the voltron platform 0:38:25.970,0:38:31.240 itself which in this case is not being 0:38:28.210,0:38:34.420 Merritt reviewed and therefore a 0:38:31.240,0:38:40.790 proposal on that wouldn't be eligible 0:38:34.420,0:38:42.920 anyway so the next question again for 0:38:40.790,0:38:44.270 sensors and controls can you clarify the 0:38:42.920,0:38:46.220 desired connection between the 0:38:44.270,0:38:48.800 submetering challenged products in the 0:38:46.220,0:38:51.700 essence PSMA during topic area does the 0:38:48.800,0:38:54.289 topic seek applications beyond 0:38:51.700,0:38:57.199 specifics of meter development or 0:38:54.289,0:38:59.269 combination so the submetering challenge 0:38:57.199,0:39:01.549 was referenced because it's in the 0:38:59.269,0:39:04.489 deployment space it's looking at 0:39:01.549,0:39:08.359 existing products already at specific 0:39:04.489,0:39:10.699 cost and performance targets and so the 0:39:08.359,0:39:14.630 connection to the topic area that we 0:39:10.699,0:39:18.049 have is conducting doing rnd to bring 0:39:14.630,0:39:22.849 those costs down such that they would 0:39:18.049,0:39:25.699 then be able to be brought into the 0:39:22.849,0:39:28.910 submetering challenge and work with that 0:39:25.699,0:39:36.469 challenge in the future as the Rd and 0:39:28.910,0:39:40.599 the technology develops okay so it seeks 0:39:36.469,0:39:43.219 so on the second part of that question 0:39:40.599,0:39:45.650 you know all applications all 0:39:43.219,0:39:49.699 applications are open or a combination 0:39:45.650,0:39:52.910 thereof we're focused on the Rd to meet 0:39:49.699,0:39:59.059 the targets that go beyond what were 0:39:52.910,0:40:06.169 what was in the CBI challenge okay the 0:39:59.059,0:40:08.089 next question is a VT question yes okay 0:40:06.169,0:40:10.249 yeah so the question Idaho National Lab 0:40:08.089,0:40:12.289 is not listed in Figure one capability 0:40:10.249,0:40:13.819 matrix can i NL be a prime for ET 0:40:12.289,0:40:16.339 partnering with universities and 0:40:13.819,0:40:19.819 industries the answer to that is yes 0:40:16.339,0:40:23.169 they can any lab is eligible the matrix 0:40:19.819,0:40:28.369 consists of labs that have received 0:40:23.169,0:40:32.239 designations either core or enabling in 0:40:28.369,0:40:36.109 the specified sub programs within the 0:40:32.239,0:40:40.159 office and just to add on to that they 0:40:36.109,0:40:42.109 are eligible with the restrictions on 0:40:40.159,0:40:44.479 the interoperability platform 0:40:42.109,0:40:50.890 maintenance and development and the 0:40:44.479,0:40:50.890 volumetric manufacturing proposals 0:40:54.109,0:41:01.489 okay that is all of the written 0:40:59.029,0:41:05.769 questions that we have have been 0:41:01.489,0:41:24.680 submitted is there any additional of 0:41:05.769,0:41:27.470 questions via hand raising we have one 0:41:24.680,0:41:29.150 person but they are unable to be unmuted 0:41:27.470,0:41:31.220 because they haven't entered their audio 0:41:29.150,0:41:32.960 pin they just have a message the 0:41:31.220,0:41:35.380 question what is the relative emphasis 0:41:32.960,0:41:37.759 between the development of sensors and 0:41:35.380,0:41:41.720 applications or controls using such 0:41:37.759,0:41:44.480 essentials such sensors so the answer to 0:41:41.720,0:41:46.400 that would depend on the topic area I 0:41:44.480,0:41:51.289 think this would pertain more in a topic 0:41:46.400,0:41:53.569 area one again there is no emphasis on 0:41:51.289,0:41:56.480 one versus the other what we're looking 0:41:53.569,0:41:59.329 for our solutions in the area of 0:41:56.480,0:42:01.670 occupancy that either will improve the 0:41:59.329,0:42:03.650 occupancy sensors themself to bring down 0:42:01.670,0:42:04.999 the costs or incorporate that 0:42:03.650,0:42:06.859 information into the controls but 0:42:04.999,0:42:23.869 there's no emphasis on one over the 0:42:06.859,0:42:26.569 other okay oh we do not see any other 0:42:23.869,0:42:31.369 hands up and have not received any 0:42:26.569,0:42:36.349 additional questions via the written 0:42:31.369,0:42:39.259 form so in the interest of saving us all 0:42:36.349,0:42:43.039 some time in gaining back an hour and a 0:42:39.259,0:42:47.029 half of our our day please feel free 0:42:43.039,0:42:50.720 with any questions that you think of as 0:42:47.029,0:42:54.130 you're reviewing the merits of review 0:42:50.720,0:43:01.809 lab call to go ahead and submit them to 0:42:54.130,0:43:04.160 PTO lab call fy17 @ ee dio e dot gov and 0:43:01.809,0:43:06.190 we will get back to you as quickly as 0:43:04.160,0:43:06.190 possible 0:43:07.050,0:43:10.730 thank you for your time