This is the text version of the video Hydrogen Stakeholder Webinar: National Clean Hydrogen Strategy and Roadmap and Interagency Coordination.

This video is a webinar that includes an introduction and overview of the U.S. National Clean Hydrogen Strategy and Roadmap and discuss progress on the whole-of-government approach to clean hydrogen, detailing how hydrogen-related work is organized and coordinated within DOE and across multiple federal agencies.

>>Stephanie Klein: Hi everyone. Thank you for joining our webinar today on the National Clean Hydrogen Strategy and Roadmap Interagency Coordination. We are pleased to have you with us today. My name is Stephanie Klein, and I am the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Engagement at the Department of Energy.

We have a wide range of stakeholders on the call today, and we're really excited to share with you all of the great work going on with hydrogen in DOE and across the federal government. So as the title of our webinar here suggests, we are going to be talking with you today about the national strategy for hydrogen and the role of clean hydrogen, and also how this work is being done both across the Department and across the federal government because there really is a whole of government effort in place to develop clean hydrogen in a rapid fashion.

I do want to make a few housekeeping notes before we get started. First of all, this webinar is being recorded and will be posted on the DOE website. There will be a Q&A session at the end of our all of our presentations and so attendees can submit questions in the question box throughout the webinar. We'll be monitoring those and we'll do our best to get to as many of your questions as possible at the end. You can access the Q&A feature by clicking on the panel options or the more options button depending on your operating system. That is the button with the three dots at the bottom right corner of the window. So hopefully you are all able to find that. We have a great group of panelists setup to present today.

You're going to be hearing from folks across DOE. You're going to hear from the White House as well as EPA and DOT, Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Transportation. So we really want to bring you a lot of different perspectives today and help to kind of paint this picture of this coordinated but broad government effort. I'm going to introduce our first speaker now, Mary Frances Repko. She is the Deputy National Climate Advisor in the White House Climate Policy Office. Mary Frances, please take it away.

>>Mary Frances Repko: Thank you so much Stephanie. I'm really delighted to be here with all of you this morning on this webinar. The reason that this webinar is so important is that this is the decisive decade for climate action.

Since day one the Biden-Harris Administration has been committed to addressing the challenge of climate change and building out our clean energy economy, including the development of hydrogen, is key to helping us meet the moment. The clean energy economy is already creating opportunity for economic growth, rebuilding the American economy from the bottom up and the middle out.

It's about the renaissance of American manufacturing and helping to build a fairer, more equitable future for all Americans across every zip code. This week we celebrate a significant anniversary—a year ago on Wednesday the President signed the most ambitious climate bill in history, the Inflation Reduction Act. This game-changing investment puts us on track to cut emissions in half by 2030 and has already created 170,000 clean energy jobs.

So we have more work to do, significantly. And to reach 100% clean energy we really need hydrogen. We need clean hydrogen for its versatility, as it can be produced in nearly every corner of our country and across a wide range of sectors. We rely on clean hydrogen to help us decarbonize, particularly what we often view as hard to decarbonize sectors, industrial and chemical processes, heavy transportation, and long duration energy storage.

The administration is matching its bold climate agenda with historic investments in clean hydrogen. We're going to produce 10 million metric tons of clean hydrogen per year by 2030, invest 8 billion dollars to build regional hydrogen hubs, and implement the game-changing hydrogen production tax credit. And we're going to make sure that all of these investments center around equity and environmental justice and deliver benefits to communities across the country.

The vast opportunities of the clean hydrogen economy extend beyond a few programs. It touches a wide segment of our society and cuts across many of the Administration's priorities. In order to achieve this objective, the White House and the interagency has taken a major new step to bring together our agencies and deliver on the clean hydrogen opportunity. Today the Biden Harris Administration is launching an Interagency Hydrogen Task Force. The task force, HIT, as we like to call it in the inside if you are interested in our acronym, will be co-chaired by myself and Deputy Secretary Turk, and it will be designed to advance the Administration's whole-of-government approach to clean hydrogen.

The HIT will ensure that we fully leverage the strengths and capabilities of the U.S. government to develop technologies, implement policy, and overcome barriers to building a clean hydrogen economy. Under the HIT umbrella, agencies will cross efforts—will coordinate our efforts across all of these areas including outreach. That means ramped up engagement with tribal communities and other historically underserved communities plus engagement across the spectrum of stakeholders from industry to academia to labor unions.

The work of the agencies to tackle the deployment of hydrogen is already staggering. I just want to share a few examples. DOE's decades of RD&D have forged the way for many of the technologies that have gotten us to where we are today with clean hydrogen. EPA is working to ensure that the environmental benefits of clean hydrogen are fully realized and shared by all Americans, upholding President Biden's Justice 40 initiative. Department of Labor has been focused on ensuring that American workers thrive like never before in a clean hydrogen economy, restoring a sense of pride in their work and their community. The Department of Commerce is ensuring that American businesses have the tools that they need to compete and succeed in the global clean hydrogen marketplace. DOT is using clean hydrogen and fueling infrastructure to help decarbonize the transportation sector, and I could keep going.

But I think you get the sense. The administration's clean hydrogen strategy is already paying off with over 12 million tons of clean hydrogen projects already announced, and 80,000 manufacturing jobs across sectors created since President Biden took office. So really, I'm here to thank all of you for your partnership on this keystone of our clean energy future. I'm really excited to continue driving progress forward through the Hydrogen Interagency Task Force and to introduce my partner in all this work Dave Turk, the Deputy Secretary of the Department of Energy. Over to you, Dave.

>>David Turk: Well let me start, Mary Frances, with a huge, huge thank you to you, not only for your co-chairing of the HIT task force, which I have to say is one of the best acronyms that we've come up with recently in the U.S. government, and all your leadership in the White House. But for those who don't know, Mary Frances previously worked on the Hill, including one of the key, key authors of many, many provisions in the IRA and the BIL, so I don't think you can overstate Mary Frances's import and impact on the historic legislation that now she's a part of the team helping to implement.

So thanks, Mary Frances, to you and all of our phenomenal White House colleagues, including on the hydrogen front. Let me also extend a huge thanks, retrospectively, but maybe even more importantly, prospectively, to all our HIT interagency colleagues, many of whom are participating in this webinar today. This is a strategy that's a national strategy. And this is a task force that is a national task force. And as Mary Frances so well put it, we're only going to succeed if all of us are doing our part across the interagency, of course, with partners beyond as well. So just a huge, huge thanks for this all-in, all-hands-on-deck moment from the federal government side of things.

And then my third thank you is to everybody else. We are not going to be successful on a national hydrogen strategy—and I really want to underline national hydrogen strategy—if we're not all doing our parts. Certainly entrepreneurs and businesses, there's profits to be had, but this is also good for our climate change and our broader industrial policy, Bidenomics and Investing in America approach. Academics, researchers, nonprofits, environmental groups. We all need to be part of this solution going forward.

So particularly excited for the Department of Energy. We've got an all of DOE strategy on hydrogen, you'll certainly hear soon from our fearless leader, Sunita, on that front, in terms of all the things that we're doing from the Department of Energy side. But our all-of-DOE effort is within an all-of-government, federal government effort. And very importantly that is a part of, and I want to underscore a part of, hopefully an enabling part of our all-of-nation, all of our national strategy, especially with this national hydrogen strategy.

So big, thanks to everybody for being part of this effort going forward. Alright, let me just give you a little bit of a top line flavor of our national hydrogen strategy. First of all, what are we trying to do? What are our areas of focus? We've really tried to boil this down into three top areas of focus, prioritized areas of focus.

First, and I think it's the reason it's first, is we're deploying, as our secretary, Secretary Granholm likes to say, deploy deploy deploy. We're working to deploy clean hydrogen in the hardest to decarbonize sectors. We're talking industry, we're talking heavy-duty transportation, where clean hydrogen can have the biggest impact. So that's the first part of our clear-cut strategy.

Second part is reducing costs. We've got work to do there. We've got our Hydrogen Shot, one of our Earthshots. One of our seven Earthshots, we'll have an eighth Earthshot coming soon. Hydrogen was actually the first Earthshot, focused on reducing costs—the cost of hydrogen, clean hydrogen production, to a dollar per kilogram within a decade. Those who follow these things know that that's an incredibly ambitious goal, but rightfully so, given what we have to do in order to utilize, utilize this technology, this storage medium at scale.

And then the third part of our strategy is creating regional networks. The hub model. Again, thanks to Mary Frances and many of our key leaders in Congress and under the President's leadership, we have a bunch of money, and we'll make some announcements shortly on clean hydrogen hubs across the United States—7 billion dollars worth being announced shortly. That is in tandem with the tax credits, in tandem with the other funding streams and programs. A part of this national—national strategy.

We're also looking to do all of this, and I really want to underscore this, in a way that maximizes environmental benefits and ensuring community needs are not only heard but addressed as well. And this is the way this administration rolls on everything, and we're making a particular emphasis, rightfully so, on the hydrogen strategy going forward as well. The strategy also has concrete targets to measure our progress across sectors to make sure that we're on track to make adjustments, as we need to make, in 2030, 2040, and 2050.

So today, just to give everyone a benchmark of where we're at, we do produce in the United States quite a bit of hydrogen. It's 10 million metric tons of hydrogen annually. But unfortunately the majority, and the vast majority, comes from fossil fuel sources without carbon capture. By 2030, we want to produce that same amount of hydrogen. But we want to do it with clean hydrogen alone. That is a big, big undertaking. Just to give you a sense of scale of what we're talking about, 10 million metric tons of clean hydrogen, that's equivalent to the amount of energy used by every bus and every train in the United States combined. So this is a big target. This is a big deal, and we need all hands on deck to get there.

Now the payoff here is huge. We're talking 100,000 new good paying jobs. And the private sector interest here, labor union interest here, has just been immense. In fact, from a private sector announcement perspective, if every publicly announced clean hydrogen project were up and running today, we could exceed our goal right now.

So our goal, our challenge, is to break down barriers to deployment, to actually go from announcement to real world communities having these facilities and tapping into this incredible potential. So that's the 2030 goal, 10 million metric tons of clean—and I really want to underscore the clean—hydrogen. That's the challenge and the goal by 2030.

By 2040 we want to double that. So we want to go from 10 million metric tons to 20 million metric tons, and by 2050 we want to go to 50 million tons, 5 times our current capacity, and of course doing this in a clean way, with no emission. Now, if we get to 50 million metric tons, again, just to give you a sense of scale, that is equivalent not only to every bus and train but every plane and every ship in the U.S. combined. So all those modes of transport, all the energy going in, that's what we're talking about with 50 million metric tons by that 2050 time period. And this will be a critical, critical piece of achieving the President's rightfully ambitious net-zero goal by 2050.

Now I want to express a particular hand of partnership with our international colleagues who are joining us today. We're not just thinking domestically, we're also eager to work internationally and to set goals internationally as well. There's a huge, huge opportunity, not only here in the United States but across the country if we all seek to seize this clean hydrogen moment. In fact, if we're successful at scaling up the way we want to scale up clean hydrogen around the world, we're talking about 30 million jobs across the country and being able to reduce our global emissions by 20% by 2050. So it is a huge part, if we're successful in this clean hydrogen shared journey, huge part of the solution overall. That 20% of emissions—that's like eliminating emissions from the entire global transportation sector.

So this is not just a nice to have, this is not just a sideshow, this is part of the main event going forward. And it's a game changer, not just a game changer for our climate challenges, but a game changer for the families and the workers and the companies. All those who can reap the benefits from this technology. So from heavy industry to heavy transportation, from synthetic fuels to energy storage, we're looking to harness the smallest element we know to deliver clean power on a huge, huge scale.

So there's momentum. There is no doubt we have momentum right now on clean hydrogen, but we all need to be all in here. Again not just DOE, not just the federal government through the HIT partnership, but everyone and all stakeholders. We all need to seize this moment in front of us. With that, let me turn it over to Sunita, our fearless leader, and we've got several other colleagues coming after Sunita to give you—to really dive deeper into our national hydrogen strategy. And we look forward not only to working with you all and talking with you all today on this webinar, but working and partnering again in a true partnership. And I really—I want to underline the true part of that partnership going forward. Sunita, over to you.

>>Sunita Satyapal: Thank you so much, Deputy. I hope you can hear me.

>>David Turk: Yeah, coming through loud and clear Sunita.

>>Sunita Satyapal: Great. Thank you. And if we go to the next slide, it's really an— [Audio cuts out 17:50–18:12].

Apologies for the technical difficulties. Hopefully, you can all hear me now. And what I would like to do is cover the details. Again, it's an honor and pleasure to be able to discuss the national strategy and the Hydrogen Interagency Task Force. A big thank you to our co-chairs of the HIT. And as a reminder we published the national strategy as a draft for public comments last year, our secretary released it, significant effort engaging with stakeholders, so a huge thank you again to so many who provided feedback. And there the overarching vision is affordable, clean hydrogen for a net-zero carbon future and a sustainable, resilient, and equitable economy.

And there are three main components to the strategy. First, target strategic, high-impact end uses. So those hard to decarbonize sectors, heavy-duty transportation, industrial applications—steel alone accounts for roughly 8% of global emissions—and enabling long duration energy storage with renewables. The second is reducing the cost of clean hydrogen. So obviously after the tax incentives expire we still need to ensure market competitiveness and scale. So I'll talk about that. And then, third, focus on regional networks. So this is where we'll see the hubs. And how do we really ramp up scale effectively?

And then the enabling activities. So obviously jobs, safety, codes and standards, stimulating private sector investment. All this is part of the strategy, and I want to emphasize the energy and environmental justice component.

And if we go to the next slide, emphasize the guiding principles that underpin the strategy from the whole of government approach. So you can see, enable deep decarbonization with hydrogen, again it's a carbon-free molecule, it can be used for many—in many different sectors but again, the optimum use of hydrogen. Innovation, investments.

I mentioned jobs, diversity, equity, inclusion, and enabling advancing energy and environmental justice. So really, the key takeaway is as we execute the strategy approaching all of it holistically. And if we go to the next slide, what I wanted to do is go through each of the three components of the strategy. And the first again, emphasize that this is market driven and demand driven so not just how much hydrogen we can produce as a nation but includes the demand opportunity.

And so there are many different scenarios. Lots of analysis here, and I'm sure you all saw the liftoff report also that helped inform the studies, but essentially on the vertical axis, that represents the cost or the price needed for hydrogen to be competitive in each of these different markets. So for example, if we can get to about $5 per kilogram of hydrogen delivered, dispensed, for the truck application, heavy-duty trucks for instance, we'll start to see early adopters from a total cost of ownership perspective. If we can get to $4 then we can start to compete, and again, a lot of analysis behind this.

And this shows one scenario where, if we can get 10 to 15 percent of all the trucks using hydrogen and fuel cells that will enable the 5 to 8 million metric tons of hydrogen in terms of demand. And then we walk down each of these so, for instance, to be competitive with biofuels, power-to-liquid fuels, of course we have our sustainable aviation fuels targets, we need to be lower cost. And then subsequently walking down this curve for steel applications, ammonia, enabling long duration energy storage, chemicals, heat, and so forth. If we can get the costs down that will unlock significant market potential. And the dark colors represent the conservative scenarios. The light colors represent more optimistic scenarios. And so essentially a lot of detail in the strategy. And if you take this chart and shift it vertically, that gets to the next slide, which essentially gets to our goals.

And so you can see today, as our Deputy Secretary said, we produce roughly, you know, 10 million metric tons. And so the strategy is to start with the existing industries. So refining, ammonia production. And the dashed lines represent the additional demands. Again, we know there's a lot of uncertainty. We'll know a lot more once we launch the hubs, once we have financing, investment wrapping up. But essentially, you can see in 2040 and 2050 how additional markets start to evolve, and where that hydrogen demand opportunity lies to get to that 50 percent—or 50 million metric tons—and then total emissions reduction of 10 percent. So again, if we're getting to net zero, that's a significant contribution.

And if we click once more, again I want to emphasize the uncertainty. So here, across the different sectors, the dark green represents the core scenarios and the light green represents, again, the conservative and optimistic scenarios if we can really get hydrogen at scale and meet all of our goals. So we'll continue to update the strategy and the analysis.

And so again start with existing uses, then scale up across the different sectors and applications. So the next slide goes to the strategy number two, and again everything rests on the cost to the end user. And of course there are many other challenges for hydrogen. We don't want to overhype where we are. So infrastructure advancements, concerns about safety, incentives, and so forth. There are many, but this is based on stakeholder feedback, over 3,000 at the summit that we had, again consistently we hear cost is a major challenge.

So the next slide again, as a reminder, 2 years ago, when President Biden asked our Secretary of Energy, What more can we do to really accelerate progress to meet our climate goals? That was the beginning of the Energy Earthshots initiative. So the Moonshot, as we all know, over half a century ago, was a huge launching point, and now the Energy Earthshots has a small number of really high profile activities. And Hydrogen Shot was the first to be launched with this bold, easily articulated goal of "1 1 1," so 1 dollar for 1 kilogram of clean hydrogen in 1 decade. And again in the U.S., with low-cost natural gas, hydrogen is already about $1.50 or so, so to really unlock that market potential to be competitive with clean hydrogen, we need to get below that, so our target is $1. So lots of activities going on there. It's a significant part of the strategy.

And then finally the next slide shows the third strategy, which is focusing on the regional network. So not building out a nationwide pipeline or hydrogen infrastructure, but really looking strategically how do we co-locate large scale production, end use, ensure that we have that demand and enable that connective infrastructure. Lots of input from stakeholders here, a big thank you—thousands of pages from our request for information, RFI, input. And again, this shows some of the stakeholder feedback on where we might see some of these pockets of regional networks develop. And you'll hear a lot more as well, as an example, when we talk about Alaska, and you'll hear again over time feedback from a lot of these different regions.

And if we go to the next slide, I want to emphasize here the analytical underpinnings, so especially all of our national labs, and really looking strategically, where are the clean hydrogen potential resources, renewables, nuclear, fossil with CCS. And then on the right looking at where can we potentially store large amounts of hydrogen. We have three geological caverns in the U.S., including the world's largest. We have over 1,600 miles of pipeline. But we're really going to need significantly more infrastructure. So that also is a key component of the strategy.

So the next slide goes to the—basically, actions. So again, it's not just a strategy, but it's also a roadmap. That was required in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law. So lots of details, it's a hundred pages. And here, for every single piece of the value chain we have concrete actions over the near-term, mid-term, and long term, and a lot more detailed, specific actions under that. So hope you can take a look at the national strategy. And then if we keep going I have two other important announcements.

As was mentioned, a very exciting day with the launch of the HIT. And to give you a little more flavor, on the next slide we have the structure and operational framework. So you heard from our two co-chairs, White House and Deputy Secretary of Energy, and this is how we'll operationalize the HIT. So we have the management structure. We have the Secretariat and Program Leadership Group, which will include all the agencies involved. And again, we'll be adding more agencies. And I do want to have a shout out to Pete Devlin, who's been serving the Secretariat role through the Interagency Working Group, again that was authorized in the Energy Policy Act and has been functioning for almost two decades.

So there's been a lot of engagement across agencies. But now, with all the focus on hydrogen, now that we have a national strategy, it's being expanded and really elevated through the new announcement of the HIT. And the key is we have three specific working groups that will be focusing across agencies. So supply and demand; infrastructure, siting, and permitting—that's consistently a huge opportunity and, you know, piece of feedback we get. And then the analysis, including the global competitiveness aspect. How do we also look at exports? You know, lots of opportunities there.

And then on the bottom, I want to emphasize DOE's Joint Strategy Teams, and—that has been launched just relatively recently, and we're addressing all the aspects of the value chain. So talk a little bit more about that. And of course, the workforce equity, energy, environmental justice.

And if we go to the next slide, this gives you a little more detail. Again, you'll have a lot more detail as we ramp up. But you see the overarching national goals, and then for each of the working groups across the agencies—again, this is not just a one agency effort, it will have leadership and engagement across the agencies—you can see very specific activities that are planned. How do we really enable large scale production, demand? Can we consider the U.S. government as an offtaker? And infrastructure, siting, permitting—how do we ensure that we can meet our challenges, our, you know, rigorous goals and metrics here. Harmonize codes and standards. I won't read through all of these, but you'll have all this information available.

And then finally, the national strategy updates. So this is required at least every three years. And I'm sure you all saw the liftoff report, which my colleague will talk about. But again, ongoing continued updates will be critical as we—as we launch. And then one last slide to give you, again, the overall map of our high-level goals.

As you can see at the very top, in terms of the administration goals, and then how we're structured. Again, hydrogen is one part of a really comprehensive portfolio. We need all the tools in the toolbox to meet our overarching goals—climate goals and other goals.

But this shows you the cross-cutting pillars. So again, across the value chain, how we're organized, our concrete metrics and targets and covering production all the way to end use. And then, of course, with the hydrogen hubs, which are up front and center, that will also help to jumpstart market liftoff. So that is a high level overview, and now I will go to the next slide and turn it over as one example—again, we have many examples, and you'll hear about others, and we'll bring in other agencies—well, you'll hear a few—couple today, but we'll bring in more and talk about other states and other regions. But we thought we'd highlight one example from the Alaska perspective. I'll turn it over to my colleague, Erin.

>>Erin Whitney: Hello! Thank you, Sunita. I appreciate that introduction and overview. My name is Erin Whitney. I am the first permanent director of the Arctic Energy Office, which is the only regional office in the Department of Energy Network, and we are based in Alaska. And I am calling in today from Anchorage where I will point out that it is 6:30 a.m. here.

So I am happy to be on this webinar and joining you all today, and I really appreciate the chance to include Alaska as an example of how different regions can enable the implementation of the national plan and highlight opportunities that may be different and unique from region to region and Alaska is certainly one of those players. Just a couple key points here, just to highlight the role that Alaska can play in a hydrogen ecosystem.

In Alaska we have vast, vast natural and renewable resources, you know, on par with—or maybe even more than—the rest of the nation when we think about resources like tidal and wind and others. But the real challenge is that they're stranded. Our largest grid in Alaska isn't connected to the continental grid, and our resources are often disconnected from even the grid—our largest grid that we are on here. So one of the points that we are working on in Alaska through our Hydrogen Working Group, which I facilitate through the Arctic Energy Office, is to assess those resources so that they can be included in the plan.

Sunita mentioned that the plan is continually being updated, and Alaska is actively—Alaska and the Arctic Energy Office is actively involved in those conversations. And as part of keeping the plan current and highlighting our regional importance, the Arctic Energy Office is helping to think about how hydrogen can commoditize and unlock a lot of the stranded resources in Alaska in service to the economic and security priorities of our nation and allies. So there's lots of good material here. I invite folks to reach out to the Arctic Energy Office to learn more about the Alaska Hydrogen Working Group and some of our activities.

And at this point I will hand it over to Todd Shrader from the Office of Clean Energy Demonstrations, also from DOE, to talk about deployment and liftoff. So Todd, over to you.

>>Todd Shrader: Thank you, and I will just—a couple quick slides that I think kind of reinforce some things you've already heard earlier, particularly the Deputy Secretary talked about a whole of DOE, a whole of government, and frankly a whole of industry approach to hydrogen liftoff. Number one, we mentioned a little bit, Regional Clean Hydrogen Hubs, and so just to remind everyone what this was—this was part of a IIJA activity funded earlier, couple years back now. And it's for the development of six to ten regional hydrogen hubs up to 7 billion dollars.

For these, if you recall on this there was—the purpose was to demonstrate different use cases from different feedstock diversity, meaning different power supplies, things like that, to different end use. Diversity, you know—what other, what are all the ways you can potentially use hydrogen. And remember, this is coming out of the Office of Clean Energy Demonstrations. It's meant to demonstrate a number of different ways to do this with the intention of industry then, hopefully, aiding in liftoff from that. We often say that this may build, you know, one to six, one to ten hubs, whatever it might be. But what this really does is encourages and shows the lessons learned for industry to build plants 11 to 100, or whatever it might be. And so it's about demonstrating all these different use cases themselves.

Another very important component of this in these hubs is the community, and environmental justice, and ensuring there are ways to produce the hydrogen—clean hydrogen in a clean way, to minimize or to reduce as much possible burden on the local communities and ensure the communities themselves share in the benefits of hosting these facilities. It's a very important piece of the overall evaluation process. I think we—everyone probably knows or it's been discussed certainly before, we're well into the selection review process, and we plan on selections in the fall of this year, announcing those selections later—later this year. Next slide, please.

So there was also talk about, you know, sort of investment and balance, and where—where it is. So you know a few—few numbers here, just to kind of look at the—how the industry itself is looking at liftoff. You see some announced, planning, and committed funding from mostly private entities around the country. But what you quickly see, particularly in the planning, committed is an imbalance—lots of money heading towards production and supply but what's the end use, what's the offtake. You know, it doesn't really do any good to have lots and lots of production capacity if there's not end use capacity or an end user for the product itself. And so to that end, earlier this year the Department issued a request for information for demand—demand-side support, and the purpose was to try to balance the offtake with the on—with the ramp-up of production and supply itself.

The pathway that's going to be looked at, and this was discussed in the notice of intent, was a broad agency announcement to engage an implementing entity. This entity will then implement the DOE designed and funded support mechanisms up to 1 billion dollars. And these support mechanisms, you know great—we had great feedback from industry, and we're looking at, but it could take a number of different forms—advanced market commitments, reverse auctions, contracts for difference. Things like that.

And so this is trying to, you know, get that gray bar moved up here within the industry, within the hydrogen field in general, moving forward. So again, I think it points out this sort of trying to get the whole of government, whole of industry involved in this effort moving forward. So next slide, please.

Sunita mentioned earlier the Liftoff report. The link is at the bottom there. It was a look at what's it going to take to have this liftoff, to get to the numbers, that that were mentioned earlier by the Deputy Secretary and others, that we need to get to. One is moving from the higher carbon intensity hydrogen generation, fossil fuels as mentioned, to some of the lower hydrogen use cases or hydrogen generation possibilities, and that would be from renewables, nuclear, or some of the other cleaner power, cleaner generation capabilities itself. So it talks about that.

The hubs, you know—again, you know, Sunita showed a map earlier of regions. How do we get different regions put together? How do we ensure that there's expansion within those regions and open access to those? And so the—it talks about that a little bit. Additional use cases—this is what I mentioned before. I think the legislation was very well written in that it looked at different use cases, not just industrial and chemical, which is perhaps the more common use today, but is there an expanded use for heavy-duty transportation, for instance, and some of these other areas. Much of that is going to be that expansion of use cases will be very important for the overall liftoff of the hydrogen market itself moving forward. And then I mentioned, you know, sustained offtake, and merchant markets, and that's some of the things we're looking at with the demand-side support. But we continue to look at other areas to—to spur domestic liftoff.

So I encourage everyone, take a look at that report. I think it really does show how not only DOE, but the government, and all of industry is needed to really get to these—to the goals that we've discussed earlier, as far as hydrogen liftoff. So with that I will turn it over—turn it back over to Sunita.

>>Sunita Satyapal: Thank you, Todd. And so now what I'd like to do is highlight just a few examples on the next slide. Again, it's a whole-of-government approach, and you'll hear a lot more from other agencies. We'll hear from two of them today. But again, there's so much going on, and we've had over two decades—I know I've been involved in over two and a half decades, industry and government—and we've had so much collaboration, and we will also be tabulating all of the funding across the federal agencies. Again, this is just one snapshot in time, just a few examples, but you can see pipelines obviously very high priority.

So you'll hear from our PHMSA DOT colleague, and in terms of buses, marine fueling corridors, a lot of activity with the Department of Transportation. We've had so many engagements with the Department of Defense, and so they're also opportunity for offtake. Forklifts with industry was one of the very first examples, first demos with the U.S. government, DOD and USPS, and now close to at least 70,000 hydrogen fuel forklifts thanks to some of the major leaders in industry ramping up in that sector, a niche market there, but enabling the infrastructure. Of course NASA, going back to the space mission—huge, huge contributions there and leadership, so we are really pleased to be able to ensure NASA is very actively engaged. And then Commerce, again lots of examples with Commerce, NIST—enabling competitiveness, addressing the standards, metrology, lots of engagement. You'll hear more. And then again—we have so many, I only have time to highlight just a few here, and so we thought we would provide this snapshot.

And if we go to the next slide, what I'd like to do is turn it over to my colleague—especially when it comes to the policy perspective again across the federal government and our role in terms of de-risking a lot of the analysis, the strategy and research, development, and demonstration enabling activities—policy will help to drive that demand. And so I'm pleased to turn it over to my colleague, Stephanie.

And I don't hear Stephanie at the moment, so maybe what we can do is as she's trying to log back on we can go over to our other colleague from DOT –

>>Stephanie Grumet: I'm back. Sorry for my technical difficulties, Sunita. Thank you. Okay. It's good to be back. Sunita, thank you so much, and thank you for your leadership. Our mission here at EPA is to protect human health and the environment, and it is in that spirit that we embrace this clean Hydrogen Interagency Task Force. We see our role as helping to keep the clean in clean hydrogen up and down the value chain. And we play another unique role in the HIT with our obligation and authority to regulate pollutants, like greenhouse gases, which can in turn create demand for clean hydrogen. As we've heard, hydrogen has the ability to store energy for long durations in its chemical bonds and when it's combusted it releases no carbon dioxide, which makes it an ideal substitute for some fossil feedstocks and fuels.

I mean, this summer has really cemented the feeling for me that climate change may be more like a switch than a dimmer. So new methods and applications to reduce carbon emissions are essential and urgently needed. As such, we've proposed two rules this year that feature clean hydrogen as mitigation—mitigation measures, and these measures can help drive that bankable demand for clean hydrogen. We have a heavy-duty engine and vehicle standards proposal which features hydrogen fuel cell technology for some heavy load applications. We also proposed carbon standards for the power sector, which feature hydrogen co-firing and combustion turbines as a proposed best system for emission reductions. We were also authorized 3 billion dollars for a Clean Ports Initiative in the Inflation Reduction Act, which we will use to provide funding to help develop climate action plans, fund port equipment, and technologies, and we do expect hydrogen to play a role in that solution set.

And look, all these efforts really require the development of a clean hydrogen value chain, and so pulling together the talent and expertise across the whole government will help deliver this. So the HIT isn't just a choreographed kumbaya moment, but rather the inception of a sustained collaborative, coordinated approach to develop this value chain for clean hydrogen, and EPA is proud to be a part of it. It is my pleasure to pass the baton now to Mary McDaniel, the acting director for the Engineering and Research Division of the Department of Transportation's Pipeline and Hazardous Material Safety Administration. Mary was also the first in the federal family to have the HIT charter signed. So take it away, Mary.

>>Mary McDaniel: Thank you. What I wanted to do is just highlight a little bit of some of the work that our agency has been doing in regards to hydrogen. It's a very important thing for us as well. Just highlighting just two of the more recent events that we've done is, last year we passed a rule for the rupture detection and valves locations. And what that will do is help to eliminate, when we do have any release from a pipeline, that there is a quicker response to be able to close those valves so that the amount of product released from pipelines is greatly reduced.

And then in May of this year we issued a notice of proposed rulemaking that applies to all of our 3.4 million miles of pipe that we oversee, and what that is going to do is help reduce both the intentional and unintentional releases and emissions from the new and existing pipeline facilities. It's something that we hope that, as we move forward and more pipelines are being built and repurposed, will be able to reduce any emissions that might come through. And a big part of this is that the timely identification of leaks, and if you have a leak that there is a repair, so we will make sure that these leaks once they are identified will be repaired in a shorter timeframe.

And the next slide is just to talk a little bit about some of the research that we've been involved in in the past couple of years. And moving forward with hydrogen specifically, we know that there is a big push for, to increase our miles. I think Sunita mentioned we have 1,500 miles of pipe that are pure hydrogen at this point, and we're going to be looking at the hydrogen blending for pipelines as it gets more use in the pipeline system. So making sure that we have the infrastructure in place for that, and then we'll be able to make any leak detection and response for those leaks if there is a pipeline that's blended with hydrogen.

And a big thing for us this fall, October 31 and November 1 we're having a forum, an R&D forum, and one of our research focus areas will be hydrogen. So if you all are interested, we do have the forum come up in the fall in Washington. So with that I'll turn it back to Sunita.

>>Sunita Satyapal: Thank you so much Stephanie and Mary. And so now I wanted to really emphasize the importance of equity, the environmental justice perspectives. And again, as mentioned earlier with the guiding principles. This really underpins everything that we do, and so we have our Economic Impact and Diversity Office. And within the HIT, because this is so cross cutting, this will be a key component across all the working groups and within our joint strategy team. And again that—not just one agency, but a whole of government approach. And so part of the strategy involves first listening sessions. So even throughout the whole development of the national strategy, I wanted to thank all of our stakeholders.

Again we had the draft open for public comments. We got significant feedback from environmental groups. Again, we had a lot of—a lot of shoutouts there. And then from industry and across all the stakeholders, again, because hydrogen is so cross-cutting and can impact multiple sectors. And we have again, we'll continue those listening sessions, especially with some smaller groups, increasing transparency, and then really prioritizing. A lot of the feedback we get is related to safety and ensuring positive benefits. And there we—very quickly when we got feedback mobilized federal government resources and our funding for sensor development ensuring, as you've heard, leak detection, and that's a key priority. Lowering the barriers. And of course, workforce development will be critical. Really building the capacity and the skills. And then the permitting and siting. Again, we consistently get feedback that that is one of the key challenges. And so this, as well, will be important as we move forward.

So we've already started preparing FAQs and based on some of the common concerns from stakeholders, from the EJ, environmental perspective, some draft documents on addressing some of those common concerns, so stay tuned. We have so much more going on. So the community benefits plans, if you've heard earlier, some of the mapping tools, and working with the Administration across all the agencies, so much more planned in this really important space, that we did want to spend time highlighting it. So stay tuned for more.

If we go to the next slide, we just wanted to end with some of the upcoming events. So save the date, October 2 and 3, the Hydrogen Americas Summit in collaboration with the Sustainable Energy Council. So we expect over 3,000 stakeholders, industry leaders, again across the value chain. A global conference here, focusing on the Americas, so feel free to register as soon as possible. Look forward to seeing you there.

And then finally, in May again, as a heads up. We just had our Annual Merit Review, so this is where we showcase hundreds of projects, actually, that we're funding. And a big thank you to all of the government funding recipients that attend, we had over 2,500 attend, and so save the date for May of 2024. It will be here before we know it. And lots and lots of resources, so such as our Increase Your H2IQ webinar series that we have, H2Tools and Center for Hydrogen Safety.

And then finally to end, as we all know, hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. The first element in the periodic table. Lightest element. The atomic weight is 1.008. So 10/8, or October 8, thanks to our Fuel Cell and Hydrogen Energy Association, our trade association, for over 8 years now it's been designated National Hydrogen Day. Lots of visibility. Again, thanks to our Congressional members who actually pass the resolution every year commemorating that as National Hydrogen and Fuel Cells Day.

So stay tuned for October. We actually celebrate the entire month, and one of the challenges to be honest with hydrogen is just a lack of awareness. And so there too, the more we can publicize that this is not an R&D lab project but we really are seeing scale. And we need that deployment and to accelerate scale, accelerate the whole of government, whole of industry, whole of community, including disadvantaged communities and global community collaboration, to succeed.

And the last slide is really a big thank you slide. I want to especially thank my entire office over the decades, especially our analysis team. And really everyone involved. And from now on feel free to go to The main website for decades now has been, so that will continue. But the will include the whole of government, including more details on the HIT as we continue to ramp up with our efforts.

So with that I would like to thank all of you, and we have many, many questions. We'll try to see how many we can get to, and I'll turn it over to our moderator.

>>Stephanie Klein: Okay, thank you. Thanks to Sunita. And thanks to all of our other speakers today, we just have a few minutes left, and we got so many questions, thanks to everybody for the wonderful questions you've submitted and all of your attention and engagement today. We're just gonna ask a few questions that hopefully will answer many of the questions that came in, so the first one goes to Sunita.

And the question is, are there any clean hydrogen production, or is there any clean hydrogen production in the U.S. yet? Or are there only announcements? I'm sorry. Are they only those that are planned and have been announced?

>>Sunita Satyapal: Oh, thank you for that question. And there definitely are clean hydrogen projects already in the U.S. And so we have many examples where we've had, you know, solar, wind, other renewables. We even have a first-of-a-kind integrated nuclear to hydrogen project. And there are also many using fossil with some sort of capture. So one of the early ones using natural gas with carbon capture, and I do want to mention that. And there are others also ramping up with waste, with pyrolysis. We even showcased a tri-generation approach. So I think there, there are many. But part of the challenge is that they're relatively small still.

One statistic I do want to highlight is we've been starting to track the electrolysis deployments over the years, just in the last couple of years, and they started out very small. So you know, 100-kilowatt scale deployments in terms of clean hydrogen using electrolysis. And we just announced at our Annual Merit Review about 3.7 gigawatts of electrolysis, mostly PEM, announcements or planned construction, and that was a fivefold increase in just one year. And then as our deputy mentioned you know, there have been a lot of announcements, at potentially 12 million metric tons clean hydrogen, and most of those don't have FID or finance full investment decision yet, but there definitely are a growing number of clean hydrogen projects already in—not just in construction or announced, but in operation.

>>Stephanie Klein: Thanks for that. We just have time for one more question, and this one's for Todd. Okay, Todd, if you could just come back on camera. Thank you. And the question is, what is the current target date for announcing the hydrogen hub awards?

>>Todd Shrader: Unfortunately, the—I don't have a specific date, but it will be sometime this fall that we will announce those selections.

>>Stephanie Klein: Wonderful, thanks. For everybody else who submitted questions I just want to emphasize that there will be, as Sunita has gone over on one of her couple of slides back, there will be other opportunities to engage with DOE around hydrogen and hopefully get your—get answers to your questions.

So again, we want to thank you so much for attending today. We hope that you have enjoyed listening to our speakers and all the information provided on the federal strategy for clean hydrogen, and we wish you a wonderful rest of your day.

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